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Posted by Dinah on April 16, 2003, at 3:52:54
In reply to Misdiagnosed??, posted by sedona on April 16, 2003, at 1:18:05
Hi Sedona,
I had pretty much the same experience. :(
I had been complaining to my pdoc that the meds were causing me to feel rather emotionless, and I didn't feel the feelings I thought I should towards loved ones. And he immediately replied that of course I didn't, I was schizotypal and therefore I wasn't capable of feeling the intense feelings I wished to feel. The thing was that I hadn't been seeing him that long, and if he had come to the conclusion that I was schizotypal, it had to have been because of what my therapist had told him. They worked together, and I know they had discussed me in the months that I was pregnant and or nursing and had refused to see the pdoc because I had refused to take meds, because this pdoc was a consultant to the clinic and because my therapist had mentioned what the pdoc had said about meds during those months.
I felt betrayed, and when I looked up the diagnosis, doubly betrayed. If that was what my therapist thought of me, I didn't want to be with him. I went to get a second opinion from someone who said that no, I didn't sound schizotypal, shizoid maybe. But he sent me back to my therapist to work through the issues. My current pdoc told me the same. That he didn't think I was schizotypal, just schizoid.
But it caused therapy to come to a halt for months, and set it back years, I think. I just couldn't get over that he had all these negative impressions of me, and hadn't even shared them.
And moreover, I was capable of those feelings because I had felt them in the past. It was severe postpartum depression that had kept me from feeling them.
Well, I did stay with him, and I'm glad now. For what it's worth he now says that he would no longer say I was flat and expressionless, that his conception of me had changed. He does still think I'm eccentric, have magical beliefs, etc. And... in the past, long ago, for the first five years or so, he did make comments about not being sure he could help me and impasses, althought he was never rude enough to say that I was resistant outright.
But I think our situations are different. My therapist is very warm although not too warm, and very receptive. Having been to a few therapists I would describe him as this: He stays in his own chair and doesn't envelop me, his personality doesn't pop out at me, but he is open and receptive where he sits. Which I know is an odd way of putting it, but hey, I do have my schizotypal traits. (grin) My point is that if you don't feel that this therapist can offer what you want, that her style isn't right for you, that alone may be reason to look around. Having been to psych testing myself (I'm a 2-7-8) and through a few pdoc interviews, I have a better idea what mental health professionals "feel" like than I once did, and I am happy with mine. (But as in any relationship we have our ups and downs.) If you aren't happy with yours, why don't you ask for a consultation? She's said she feels like you're at an impasse. That's reason enough for a consultation (and second opinion on the personality testing results).
Posted by jane d on April 16, 2003, at 8:18:31
In reply to Misdiagnosed??, posted by sedona on April 16, 2003, at 1:18:05
> Hello- I am facing a dilemma with my therapy. I have been seeing a therapist for about two years .....
One month later she had the results and she found that much to her surprise I showed a lot of Borderline traits according to the test. I know exactly what that means as I have read a lot about the personality disorders-
Sedona,
You had been seeing her for two years and she didn't think you were borderline until you took a test? Something seems very fishy here. I don't think tests are supposed to be used that way.I've done a bit of reading on borderline personality also after someone tried to tag me with it. I also tend to be a hypochondriac about these things but no matter how hard I tried I just couldn't make the borderline picture fit. And that's when I could figure out just what the description meant anyway. Is it a "personality" disorder or a mood disorder? Is it defined by what you feel or how you behave? Is it a case where the written description is inadequate but you "know it when you see it"? I never did find out what the person who labeled me was using as a definition or what he thought he saw. You might ask your therapist what her definition is and how you fit it. Or you could just decide that this diagnosis is so muddy that it won't be around much longer and shrug it off.
Jane
*Disclaimer. I am way over on the biological side of the fence in my view of the world and don't really believe in personality disorders period.
Posted by Eddie Sylvano on April 16, 2003, at 8:55:34
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed! » sedona, posted by jane d on April 16, 2003, at 8:18:31
> *Disclaimer. I am way over on the biological side of the fence in my view of the world and don't really believe in personality disorders period.
-----------------I second that. I find it curious that people (in general) elevate the mind to a spiritual level, assuming that our thoughts and actions are decided in some meta-realm outside of physical interactions. There is no "you," but only the chemical states that give rise to a sense of self. How else could it be?
One caveat, though, is that our minds do take cues from the environment when forging themselves. Hence, talk therapy can accomplish change via a much longer process of reactive rewiring. Still, I can't rise above any limitations inherent in my brain. I *am* my brain.
Posted by noa on April 16, 2003, at 9:40:09
In reply to Misdiagnosed??, posted by sedona on April 16, 2003, at 1:18:05
Sedona, I am sorry you are going through this.
Your therapist told you she thinks of you and thinks of impasse. Then she gives you a test and tells you you're borderline.
That sounds to me to be one of the worst uses of diagnostic tools I have ever heard!!
A diagnosis is only as good as it is useful for helping direct the treatment. Borderline is a rather catch-all diagnosis, imho. And it has a reputation for being used when a therapist is frustrated by a client. But there are many reasons a therapist could be frustrated by a client, and not all of those reasons are from the client's side.
Put the ball in her court now. I would ask her how the diagnosis is going to help her in her treatment of you--ie, what new information or insight does it provide her in trying to get through the impasse. How does she now propose to help you now that she has determined that you have this diagnosis. Ask seriously, not rhetorically. Then, depending on what kind of answer you get, you might have more information about whether you want to continue to work with her.
If the therapy is in an impasse, it might be time to get a consult. Either together, if she is willing, ie, another shrink consults with both of you to help figure out if the impasse can be overcome and how to do that. I know this because a long time ago, my therapist suggested it as a possibility when I felt we were at an impasse (he never thought we were at an impasse, though). Or, for you to get a consult on your own.
You said you want someone warmer. That is important that you know that. It is important to have a therapist whose style matches your needs.
Posted by noa on April 16, 2003, at 9:42:24
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed?? » sedona, posted by Dinah on April 16, 2003, at 3:52:54
DINAH???? SCHIZOID? that's a laugh! (And a cry!) How could anyone think you are schizoid?
Posted by Pfinstegg on April 16, 2003, at 13:11:23
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed??, posted by noa on April 16, 2003, at 9:42:24
Dear Sedona,
It is very painful to feel that you are at an impasse with your therapist, and at the same time to get hit with tests and a diagnosis of borderline personality disorder; there is a punitive aspect to this which is not at all helpful. I would agree completely with Noa's assessment, and his suggestions.
Some mental health professionals now feel that all of these terms, such as "borderline" and "schizotypal" are inaccurate and out of date. They originated at a time when psychiatrists thought that they indicated a continuum into psychosis and schizophrenia- something that no-one thinks now. They also carried a connotation of untreatability- the reason why anyone would dread to hear them. This is wrong, too; with new techniques developed over the last 20 years, they are commonly treated successfully.
Many psychiatrists now think that the term "limbic dysregulation" more accurately reflects what the underlying situation is, and they use the term "PTSD" to indicate that a range of childhood neglect, trauma and abuse situations are the underlying causes.
People can definitely be treated successfully for these conditions; you do need, and have a right to, a therapist whom you feel is warm,cares about you, and feels hopeful and confident about your capacity to get better, and about his/her capacity to see it through successfully.. They are definitely out there.I hope to hear that you have gone out and interviewed a number of therapists, and found a great one. Keep in mind that you deserve the best in therapists- you are clearly willing to do your part. Once you find the right person, life will seem so much more hopeful and promising to you- and you will have the strength to weather all the extremely tough times that do come with therapy.
Pfinstegg
Posted by fallsfall on April 16, 2003, at 13:21:45
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed??, posted by noa on April 16, 2003, at 9:42:24
About 6 months into my therapy I ended up in the hospital, and when I returned to my therapist she said that I was Borderline. As is my trait, I started reading. One of the first books I read was "Cognitive-Behavioral Treatment of Borderline Personality Disorder" by Marsha Lineham. (This book is for therapists) As I started reading her description in the beginning chapters I was amazed. Finally, someone understood me! And I am not a typical Borderline - I am not impulsive, but I do have enough of the traits to know that it fits.
I've been with her now for over 8 years. Things were great until a couple of months ago. I did a bad thing and she got angry (justifiably), then we got into this thing where she is saying I'm too dependent (which I am), but I don't dare talk to her anymore because she might get angry again. It it excruciatingly painful (I'm dependent, remember?). I'm hoping that at this point we are talking together towards the same goals, but I'm not sure. Nothing like this happened in the first 8 years. She is warm, and I love it (usually).
So. A little homework on Borderline might be helpful. Your therapist should also be willing to go through the DSM-IV definition and tell you why she thinks you have which symptoms. The diagnosis was very helpful to me - I went to a DBT class (highly recommended - see Linehan's book), and reading about it gives me better perspective on why I feel certain ways. I think that you have to feel comfortable with your therapist. Warmth is very important. You should be able to talk to your current therapist about this. She should give you her assessment of the "fit". She should also give you names of people to go to, if you decide to do that.
Good Luck
Posted by Dinah on April 16, 2003, at 15:32:05
In reply to Really Borderline, posted by fallsfall on April 16, 2003, at 13:21:45
Ouch, that must really hurt! Years of a good relationship changed because of one action...
You really have my sympathies. I'm always afraid my therapist will say that I'm too dependant. So far his attitude is that it means therapy is working, and I'll grow past it. But I'm afraid that one day he'll think it's past time I grew.
I just wanted to send some warm thoughts your way. I think I know how much you must be hurting.
Posted by Dinah on April 16, 2003, at 16:13:40
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed??, posted by noa on April 16, 2003, at 9:42:24
Well, I present differently in real life than I do here. I have some sort of expressive aphasia, I think it's called. I'm not sure. But I've always come across as schizoid (even schizotypal), even as a kid.
It hurts to find out that your therapist thinks you have an odd appearance, though. (Said the forty someodd year old "woman" in braids or pigtails who owns only a few outfits, but in several colors each, and who wears bandeau swimtops as bras, and slouch socks used as kneehis with tennis shoes while wearing casual dresses - schizotypal? no, not me. :D )
Posted by Dinah on April 16, 2003, at 16:48:46
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed?? » noa, posted by Dinah on April 16, 2003, at 16:13:40
Oops. Not expressive aphasia, that's got to do with verbal communications. I've got problems with nonverbal communications. Expressive dyssemia has been proposed to refer to problems with sending nonverbal social communications. "Helping the Child Who Doesn't Fit In"
Posted by sedona on April 16, 2003, at 18:07:29
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed?? » sedona, posted by Dinah on April 16, 2003, at 3:52:54
Hi Dinah-Betrayed is exactly how I feel. She always tells me that I seem to hold things back from her and I am assuming she is using the test to figure me out. I have read a lot about Borderline and though I do identify with maybe 3 traits, I also identify with traits from other disorders and I don't feel as though I fit into any. Even though I don't think this is me, since she said it, it is in my head always. I worry about maybe eventually going to another doctor and as soon as they see the notes from my last appointment and they see the word "Borderline" then I again am stuck with the label.
I wanted to get a second opinion, so I went to see a psychiatrist at my college. I tried to tell him that I had been seeing someone and that I felt we were at a standstill and I wanted a different pespective on the situation. He immediately wanted to know who I was seeing. I reluctantly told him and of course it turns out they know each other, in fact "very well" as he put it. Then he wanted to know what our problem was. I told him I felt uncomfortable talking about her since they knew each other, but he told me not to worry about it. He said that if I wanted to seek treatment from him, thus releasing my records from her, that it wouldn't be taken personally. Later, I started thinking about it and the more I thought about it the weirder it seemed. I personally would never want to go see a psychiatrist who was friends with my last doctor. Does that seem right to you?
Posted by sedona on April 16, 2003, at 18:07:35
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed?? » sedona, posted by Dinah on April 16, 2003, at 3:52:54
Hi Dinah-Betrayed is exactly how I feel. She always tells me that I seem to hold things back from her and I am assuming she is using the test to figure me out. I have read a lot about Borderline and though I do identify with maybe 3 traits, I also identify with traits from other disorders and I don't feel as though I fit into any. Even though I don't think this is me, since she said it, it is in my head always. I worry about maybe eventually going to another doctor and as soon as they see the notes from my last appointment and they see the word "Borderline" then I again am stuck with the label.
I wanted to get a second opinion, so I went to see a psychiatrist at my college. I tried to tell him that I had been seeing someone and that I felt we were at a standstill and I wanted a different pespective on the situation. He immediately wanted to know who I was seeing. I reluctantly told him and of course it turns out they know each other, in fact "very well" as he put it. Then he wanted to know what our problem was. I told him I felt uncomfortable talking about her since they knew each other, but he told me not to worry about it. He said that if I wanted to seek treatment from him, thus releasing my records from her, that it wouldn't be taken personally. Later, I started thinking about it and the more I thought about it the weirder it seemed. I personally would never want to go see a psychiatrist who was friends with my last doctor. Does that seem right to you?
Posted by Dinah on April 16, 2003, at 19:14:04
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed?? » Dinah, posted by sedona on April 16, 2003, at 18:07:29
I don't think that under your circumstances I would want to do that. For one thing you would probably feel awkward trying to work through residual feelings towards her, and you really should be able to do that. Although it may not be a problem. I speak negatively about the miserable pdoc I told you about, even though he is good friends with my therapist. My therapist just accepts my feelings while calmly expressing his own liking for the guy. He admits his perspective is different from that of a patient, and acknowledges a personality clash.
I tell you though, under the circumstances you have explained, I wouldn't even want to forward my records. At least not for a while. When I left that pdoc, I went to a very highly regarded psychopharmacologist, and had my records forwarded. He obviously built his impression of my diagnostic picture from my former pdoc and continued on an ineffective meds strategy. After I left him, I did not forward my records to my new pdoc. Nor did he ask for them. In my first visit, he prescribed a mood stabilizer, and that proved to be the key in my med regimen. Because with no baggage coming with me, he was able to correctly diagnose me.
Do therapists usually ask for records to be forwarded? And what do they do if you request that at least they wait a while to get to know you for themselves first?
Posted by noa on April 16, 2003, at 21:06:48
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed?? » sedona, posted by Dinah on April 16, 2003, at 19:14:04
I don't think you have to forward records. And I would also want to go to someone who is unconnected to the first therapist.
Posted by likelife on April 16, 2003, at 21:21:06
In reply to Misdiagnosed??, posted by sedona on April 16, 2003, at 1:18:05
Sedona,
I'm sorry you've had to deal with this--it can be so hard/disconcerting/confusing/frustrating to disagree with a therapist, especially after building a 2 year relationship.
I've recently had a similar experience--with borderline pd as well. I have been seeing my current therapist for a little over two years and about six months ago I began talking honestly with my her about how I felt about her, which was basically extremely attached, pretty dependent, and somewhat frustrated by these feelings, and because I felt like she was and continues to be somewhat cold and uncaring. Being, of course, terrified of abandonment, this was a difficult thing for me. She was somewhat receptive to hearing about this, but I was thrown completely by the amount of emotion that I was having, and after having spent the better part of two sessions talking through it, the issue was dropped (mostly because I felt like she wanted me to drop it).
So, anyway, in short order I became quite depressed after this, which was probably caused in part by my disappointment, inability to talk about it, and an enormous amount of stress from beginning grad school.
I am having difficulty making this make sense.
Somewhere in here, my pdoc, who works at the same clinic, asked me if I thought I have borderline personality disorder. I knew a little about it at the time, but his question came completely out of left field for me. I told him no, and we moved on (pretty much I already couldn't stand this guy, but felt stuck with him). Later, I confronted my therapist, and asked her why he had asked me about BPD (I know they regularly consult with each other). She admitted that she thought the diagnosis fit as well, and I was (not in order) pissed, confused, terrified, miserable--mostly because I had a lot of misinformation about the disorder, and felt it was being used as some kind of sentence, rather than as a useful tool (as noa was talking about).
I am one of the most passive people I know, and one of my "characterological deficits" is that I will believe almost anything someone else tells me about myself. So my therapist and I discussed her use of the diagnosis (at my insistence), and whether she would have told me had I not asked. I have come to believe her, but wonder occasionally about how my need to please and not make waves has brought about this agreement. When sharing this information with my husband (much later), he was shocked and angered that someone would "label" me with that group of traits. (For the record, I do fit somewhere around half of the diagnostic criteria, but only when I am quite depressed).
You could say I have made progress in therapy since this point, as I have been handling stress much better, most importantly staying away from cutting (the defiant child in me wonders if I'm not doing this in part just to spite her--see, I'm not what you say I am). But as far as the relationship with my therapist, I feel like I have been trying very hard to distance myself from it, and make it not matter so much to me, since I am finding that it is much more painful to allow myself to think and feel about it.
The point I think I'm trying to get to here is that after reading your message, Sedona, I wonder if I shouldn't agree with my therapist so readily. When I told her I found her cold and uncaring, she turned it back around to me and labeled it as one of my many cognitive distortions, and asked me how I could reframe that perception. I halfheartedly told her something about the necessity of clinical distance, but I didn't believe any of it. She also proposed that perhaps she is reacting to my often apparent lack of emotion in sessions. But what didn't even occur to me then was that I *did* have a previous therapist who was much more warm toward me.
I'm reeling all of a sudden. It has been my therapist's mission to make me realize that my perceptions and cognitions can be very distorted, and I agree--BUT, I have agreed to the point that I don't trust my own emotions or appraisals of situations. Have I helped in my own brainwashing? OK, that's probably a bit too extreme, but why do I suddenly feel like I'm not sure which way is up?
Posted by white rabbit on April 16, 2003, at 21:48:34
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed?? (way too long) » sedona, posted by likelife on April 16, 2003, at 21:21:06
I believe that a therapist has no business giving you a "diagnosis". A diagnosis is made by an MD,
period. Unless your therapist happens to be a doctor, I would ignore this label.Go to www.nami.org (formally the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill, an educational and support group) for more information, they have a terrific website.
Then find another therapist. I have a wonderful therapist, I ALWAYS feel MUCH better after talking to her, and I believe that this is what a good therapist does.
-Gracie
Posted by sedona on April 17, 2003, at 0:20:49
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed?? (way too long) » sedona, posted by likelife on April 16, 2003, at 21:21:06
I know how you feel. Whenever I am in her office I often feel overpowered which makes me either react in a defensive way or a passive way. When she told me she thought I might be borderline I told her that I disagreed but not much else. Later, that night I got mad-at myself for not saying what I thought about it and at her for just laying it on me as if it were nothing. I have had many days when I feel doubt about myself and think she must be right.
I can relate to your story about about trying to tell her how you feel, only to have it thrown back at you. That's happened to me too. You shouldn't feel more confused about your emotions after seeing this therapist.I mean isn't that what they are supposed to be helping us out with in the first place. I am also very confused about my situation, but I think that maybe it's time we both found a new therapist
> Sedona,
>
> I'm sorry you've had to deal with this--it can be so hard/disconcerting/confusing/frustrating to disagree with a therapist, especially after building a 2 year relationship.
>
> I've recently had a similar experience--with borderline pd as well. I have been seeing my current therapist for a little over two years and about six months ago I began talking honestly with my her about how I felt about her, which was basically extremely attached, pretty dependent, and somewhat frustrated by these feelings, and because I felt like she was and continues to be somewhat cold and uncaring. Being, of course, terrified of abandonment, this was a difficult thing for me. She was somewhat receptive to hearing about this, but I was thrown completely by the amount of emotion that I was having, and after having spent the better part of two sessions talking through it, the issue was dropped (mostly because I felt like she wanted me to drop it).
>
> So, anyway, in short order I became quite depressed after this, which was probably caused in part by my disappointment, inability to talk about it, and an enormous amount of stress from beginning grad school.
>
> I am having difficulty making this make sense.
>
> Somewhere in here, my pdoc, who works at the same clinic, asked me if I thought I have borderline personality disorder. I knew a little about it at the time, but his question came completely out of left field for me. I told him no, and we moved on (pretty much I already couldn't stand this guy, but felt stuck with him). Later, I confronted my therapist, and asked her why he had asked me about BPD (I know they regularly consult with each other). She admitted that she thought the diagnosis fit as well, and I was (not in order) pissed, confused, terrified, miserable--mostly because I had a lot of misinformation about the disorder, and felt it was being used as some kind of sentence, rather than as a useful tool (as noa was talking about).
>
> I am one of the most passive people I know, and one of my "characterological deficits" is that I will believe almost anything someone else tells me about myself. So my therapist and I discussed her use of the diagnosis (at my insistence), and whether she would have told me had I not asked. I have come to believe her, but wonder occasionally about how my need to please and not make waves has brought about this agreement. When sharing this information with my husband (much later), he was shocked and angered that someone would "label" me with that group of traits. (For the record, I do fit somewhere around half of the diagnostic criteria, but only when I am quite depressed).
>
> You could say I have made progress in therapy since this point, as I have been handling stress much better, most importantly staying away from cutting (the defiant child in me wonders if I'm not doing this in part just to spite her--see, I'm not what you say I am). But as far as the relationship with my therapist, I feel like I have been trying very hard to distance myself from it, and make it not matter so much to me, since I am finding that it is much more painful to allow myself to think and feel about it.
>
> The point I think I'm trying to get to here is that after reading your message, Sedona, I wonder if I shouldn't agree with my therapist so readily. When I told her I found her cold and uncaring, she turned it back around to me and labeled it as one of my many cognitive distortions, and asked me how I could reframe that perception. I halfheartedly told her something about the necessity of clinical distance, but I didn't believe any of it. She also proposed that perhaps she is reacting to my often apparent lack of emotion in sessions. But what didn't even occur to me then was that I *did* have a previous therapist who was much more warm toward me.
>
> I'm reeling all of a sudden. It has been my therapist's mission to make me realize that my perceptions and cognitions can be very distorted, and I agree--BUT, I have agreed to the point that I don't trust my own emotions or appraisals of situations. Have I helped in my own brainwashing? OK, that's probably a bit too extreme, but why do I suddenly feel like I'm not sure which way is up?
Posted by sedona on April 17, 2003, at 0:28:38
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed?? » sedona, posted by Dinah on April 16, 2003, at 19:14:04
Thanks again for your response. I have absolutely no intention of forwarding my records, or going back to the college psychiatrist. I though it was ludicrous of him to expect me to be able to talk about the psychiatric nurse that I have been having all the trouble with, knowing that they were friends. I kind of feel like it would have been more professional for him to refer me to one of the other psychiatrists.
Posted by sedona on April 17, 2003, at 1:40:02
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed?? (way too long) » likelife, posted by sedona on April 17, 2003, at 0:20:49
Posted by Dinah on April 17, 2003, at 10:16:06
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed?? (way too long) » sedona, posted by likelife on April 16, 2003, at 21:21:06
You and Sedona are making me feel so lucky for the relationship I have with my therapist. I feel like I can tell him anything at all. In fact I have.
And while he might get angry occasionally, he always is very careful (eventually at least) to reassure me that anger is part of any long term relationship. And that he is always willing to work out any problems and that the relationship is in no jeapardy. Which is something I need to learn in all my relationships.
Posted by WorryGirl on April 17, 2003, at 17:25:36
In reply to Misdiagnosed??, posted by sedona on April 16, 2003, at 1:18:05
Sedona,
I'm probably not the one who should be answering this, since I still haven't found another pdoc yet for myself.I don't know a lot about borderline personality, either.
I guess I would say that if you feel that this therapist has really helped you so far, it won't hurt to try to work on improving the relationship.
But if you two really aren't connecting well, it wouldn't hurt to try someone else for a few weeks and just tell your therapist that you need a vacation during that time. If after this time you think she was right for you, go back.
Posted by jane d on April 17, 2003, at 19:09:03
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed?, posted by white rabbit on April 16, 2003, at 21:48:34
>
> I believe that a therapist has no business giving you a "diagnosis". A diagnosis is made by an MD,
> period. Unless your therapist happens to be a doctor, I would ignore this label.
>WR,
This doesn't make sense to me at all but I've seen it stated here before. Why should psychiatric diagnosis be restricted to doctors (and does anyone other than doctors say that it should)? I thought that most of the people working in the field from Social Workers to Psychologists were encouraged to make their own evaluation of the people they treat. Is this not so?
Thanks,
Jane
Posted by noa on April 17, 2003, at 22:20:51
In reply to Re: Who can diagnose? » white rabbit, posted by jane d on April 17, 2003, at 19:09:03
I think psychologists and social workers can diagnose psychiatric disorders, too. But maybe it differs from state to state?
Posted by likelife on April 18, 2003, at 0:14:26
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed?? (way too long) » likelife, posted by sedona on April 17, 2003, at 0:20:49
Sedona,
Yeah, it's looking more and more like a new therapist wouldn't be such a bad idea. Just need to find the energy to suck it up and (1) tell my current therapist and (2) start looking again. Sigh...
Posted by likelife on April 18, 2003, at 0:16:24
In reply to Re: Misdiagnosed?? (way too long) » likelife, posted by Dinah on April 17, 2003, at 10:16:06
Dinah,
I do feel envious of the relationship it sounds like you have with your therapist. I definitely don't want the rest of my relationships to look like the one I have with her, but this doesn't necessarily mean that all the fault lies with me. Isn't that a lesson I've been learning forever?
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