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Posted by Deniseuk190466 on January 23, 2008, at 7:52:43
As I have come off meds (as a trial) I have been trying various alternative strategies (with a lot of cynicism I have to say).
I'm amazed when I see people on this board saying how such and such really makes a difference or it does this or that because so far I haven't noticed anything on the tabs I have tried. Maybe they are doing something, it's just too subtle for me to notice but if that's the case then they are hardly worth taking.
In the past I have tried
SJW - No difference.
SAM E - Nothing.
Magnesium injections - Nothing
Folic Acid - Nothing
Phenalinine (both types) - Nothing
Rhodiola - (made me more drowsy with an AD but that was about it.
Valarian - Nothing
Theanine - So far Nothing.
I can't help wondering if you are all just having some kind of placebo response. Does anyone on this board think it might be a placebo response.I must admit I'm a bit jealous as I wish I'd notice something when taking them.
Denise
Posted by toduar on January 23, 2008, at 17:08:48
In reply to To supplements really help? Or is it placebo?, posted by Deniseuk190466 on January 23, 2008, at 7:52:43
I can only speak for myself, but for me it is anything but a placebo. I'm super sensitive to chemicals though. My problem is stabalizing anything. I often have to stop experimenting, because I can't handle the rollercoaster. \fwiw
Posted by tanner257 on January 25, 2008, at 14:13:07
In reply to To supplements really help? Or is it placebo?, posted by Deniseuk190466 on January 23, 2008, at 7:52:43
well, I can't speak for anyone but myself, but after trying several ADs over the past few years, and not being able to tolerate those nasty side effects, my shrink suggested Sam-E. I admit to being skeptical, but after almost one month, I don't think I'm overstating it to say that it has changed my life. Seriously. After only 3-4 days I felt this light come on inside that I don't think I've felt for years - maybe ever. And I'm not even at the therapeutic dose. I started at 400 mg, and was supposed to go to 800 after the first week, but I feel so good at 400 that I have kept it there.
So, for me, this is really working. I'm sure many or most don't have this result, but I'm really happy with it.
Posted by deniseuk190466 on January 30, 2008, at 16:06:21
In reply to Re: To supplements really help? Or is it placebo?, posted by tanner257 on January 25, 2008, at 14:13:07
Wow, that's great, that they help. Wish they worked for me that's all :-(
Denise
Posted by bleauberry on January 30, 2008, at 19:57:10
In reply to To supplements really help? Or is it placebo?, posted by Deniseuk190466 on January 23, 2008, at 7:52:43
Supplements really do help. Huge. The trick is to find the one that targets whatever individual biochemical flaw you have. Of course, we don't usually know what that flaw is, so it is a guessing game. With the hundreds or thousands of supplements to choose from, it is easy to try bunches and bunches of them but miss the one that is really needed.
People have been amazingly cured with St Johns Wort after failing all kinds of heavy duty drug combinations. The same kinds of amazing accounts have happened with things like magnesium supplements, rhodiola, ginkgo, 5htp, tyrosine+taurine combo, etc. In mercury toxicity there are severe problems with intestinal disorders, food intolerances, chemical sensitivities, and systemic bacterial/fungal infections. Those people find such things as oregeno oil and lechithin to resolve many of their problems quickly. Someone with adrenal/thyroid deficiencies gets strong relief with a microdose of Maca.
I have several shoe boxes full of supplements that did nothing for me or made me worse. Even after doing tons of research to find the exact supplement I need and I can explain exactly why it is going to work for me, well, it doesn't. I was wrong. Once in a great while I find a decent one, purely by trial and error. One example was St Johns Wort. While I experienced about 2 months of being reborn with it, I mean it was wonderful, it pooped out on me. But I guarantee you, those 2 months were not placebo.
Posted by judes on February 13, 2008, at 23:35:34
In reply to Re: To supplements really help? Or is it placebo?, posted by tanner257 on January 25, 2008, at 14:13:07
SAM-E had the same affect on me. I have been taking it for several years now. It still keeps me from feeling foggy, but I don't get the lift I used to. Has anything else helped you? How about diet? I'm curious because maybe we are helped by similar things. SAM-E is the only thing that has provided me with long-term significant benefit. Maybe avoiding added sugar helps me as well as exercise.
Jude
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