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Non medication related insomnia

Posted by Partlycloudy on July 1, 2014, at 10:10:28

Hi all,
I'm experiencing some delaying PTSD reactions to my recent rehabilitation stay. The story is longer than the stay was. The upshot is that I'm experiencing severe insomnia, a reluctance to eat and indifference to it. Broken concentration to the point where I can't meditate for any length of time.

My new pdoc appointment isn't until August, but I already take meds to regulate my sleep. When I lay down, I am not the least bit sleepy, but if I get up (to read a book for distraction) I am immediately drowsy.

What the heck is happening? How long can my body stand this?

Thanks.

 

Re: Non medication related insomnia

Posted by Angela2 on July 1, 2014, at 21:56:27

In reply to Non medication related insomnia, posted by Partlycloudy on July 1, 2014, at 10:10:28

Hey PC,

I hope you feel better soon. Maybe you should read when you feel like going to sleep! lol. I just wanted to tell you something. I have experienced trauma too. You're not alone. Many people feel the way you do. Maybe not all about the same thingsbut nonetheless.

I just want you to know that 1.) you're not alone in feeling hurt in life. But 2.) what helped me, was taking time away from the place (which you're doing a good job of, by protecting yourself), I also did grieve, I was angry, etc. Also it took me a long time to realize this, that I had to get out of the victim mentality. I don't know how you feel about this, but I have learned, slowly and over time, that people are not out to get me. I am not a weird pariah, even if sometimes I might perceive it that way.

I have read before, that we carry stories with us. Our own stories. Whether they are negative, or positive. And they just follow us around. Maybe we learned them in childhood, or just throughout our lives. I think that over time, if we become aware of them, we can change our negative stories and beliefs about how our life and interactions with others is going to go.

But in terms of right now, I hope that you get some rest. If i were the sandman, I'd make sure to stop by your house. If not, try to just accept where you are right now. I have this thing on my wall that says: "there is no rush, no right or wrong, there is only me, blooming into being and basking in the light. I am right on time."

 

Re: Non medication related insomnia » Angela2

Posted by Partlycloudy on July 1, 2014, at 22:09:19

In reply to Re: Non medication related insomnia, posted by Angela2 on July 1, 2014, at 21:56:27

Thanks, Angela. I needed to read that. I am up because I did all my sleepy time tricks and was fully awake. My dreams are nightmare, anxiety dreams.

I want to be rid of that victim thinking. I was doing OK but that place... That place was like going back to high school. I really, really did not have a good time at high school.

I am in the right place at the right time. I will try not to find that depressing.

 

Re: Non medication related insomnia » Partlycloudy

Posted by Phillipa on July 2, 2014, at 9:41:21

In reply to Re: Non medication related insomnia » Angela2, posted by Partlycloudy on July 1, 2014, at 22:09:19

PC always tired, rapid heart rate wakes me up and pain under breastbone. I open my Nook and it's instant sleep of course with med. Then four hours later awake and that heart stuff happens. I do hope not having heart attack cause if I am I'm ignoring it. No more docs for me. They are my PTSD. Phillipa

 

Re: Non medication related insomnia

Posted by Angela2 on July 2, 2014, at 10:55:56

In reply to Re: Non medication related insomnia » Partlycloudy, posted by Phillipa on July 2, 2014, at 9:41:21

(((((PC))))) (((((Phillipa)))))

 

Re: Non medication related insomnia » Phillipa

Posted by Partlycloudy on July 2, 2014, at 11:07:50

In reply to Re: Non medication related insomnia » Partlycloudy, posted by Phillipa on July 2, 2014, at 9:41:21

That must be an awful feeling, Phillipa. You take good care of yourself, so I hope your anxiousness finds some relief.
PC

 

Re: Non medication related insomnia

Posted by Partlycloudy on July 2, 2014, at 11:12:55

In reply to Non medication related insomnia, posted by Partlycloudy on July 1, 2014, at 10:10:28

It's not trauma related, thank goodness. I had no other "label" to put on it. How would I know?

Has more to do with moon phases (Mars in retrograde ends today!) which disrupted me in all these ways. My T suggested this only because she has had so many clients with unrelated diagnoses report the same complaints this past week.

I look forward to some kind of normalcy.

Thanks again, Angela.

 

Re: Non medication related insomnia

Posted by alexandra_k on July 4, 2014, at 19:07:46

In reply to Re: Non medication related insomnia, posted by Partlycloudy on July 2, 2014, at 11:12:55

i guess you can't read in bed because it would disturb SO?

nightmares are hard... i hate that horrible feeling of being afraid to fall asleep. some relaxing and soothing feel good music on an i-pod can help soothe...

i'm very fortunate that i haven't really had trouble sleeping for a while now... i did have it pretty bad when coming off zotab, though... zopiclone, whatever. one of the things that helped me was thinking that the aim or the point of lying down was to relax. rather than to sleep. so instead of being all 'i'm still awake grr grr grrrrrrrrr' i'd try and breathe and relax my body... i pod helps a lot because of something to listen to... and i find musical tone to be catchy. i think you might, too :) hang in there. sleep deprivation is horrible. have you read "insomnia"?

 

Re: Non medication related insomnia » alexandra_k

Posted by Phillipa on July 4, 2014, at 21:18:05

In reply to Re: Non medication related insomnia, posted by alexandra_k on July 4, 2014, at 19:07:46

Do you have either a Nook or Kindle backlit ereader. Read in bed and the devise is all that is lit. So only the page you are reading has light. Doesn't disturb a soul. Phillipa

 

Re: Non medication related insomnia

Posted by Partlycloudy on July 4, 2014, at 21:56:33

In reply to Re: Non medication related insomnia, posted by alexandra_k on July 4, 2014, at 19:07:46

My SO has undiagnosed ADD, so the very things that soothe me (ambient, quiet music or softly spoken guided meditation) drives him mad. I go down the hall to listen to that, then crawl back, if it works.

My sleep is slowly returning to less wonky patterns. Pretty much, if I haven't fallen asleep within an hour of going to bed, I get up (like tonight).

And sometimes the nightmares "stick" with you the next day. These have all be anxiety dreams, almost alternative reality dreams. Not so outrageous you can't imagine them not happening. Yuck.

I haven't read that book, will give it a look. Thanks.


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