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Posted by verne on October 19, 2005, at 19:32:22
Too drunk to figure it out. Anyway, I was thinking about a chapter in "Brothers Karamazov" entitled "Rebellion" in the Magarshak translation.
I believe Ivan says, but I "reject the price of admission".
Verne
Posted by alexandra_k on October 19, 2005, at 19:47:07
In reply to I can't spell Dostoyvesky, posted by verne on October 19, 2005, at 19:32:22
> Too drunk to figure it out. Anyway, I was thinking about a chapter in "Brothers Karamazov" entitled "Rebellion" in the Magarshak translation.
> I believe Ivan says, but I "reject the price of admission".lol. I had some books of his... Let me see. The Trial. Was that his? It has been so long for me... I haven't read any of that stuff for so long...
But I remember enjoying it immensely.
Posted by Declan on October 20, 2005, at 0:02:52
In reply to Re: I can't spell Dostoyvesky » verne, posted by alexandra_k on October 19, 2005, at 19:47:07
It's an unfulfilled ambition to read his stuff. "Notes From Underground" is so funny. "The Devils" I need to read, prefiguring as it does later events. I want an arrangement with someone where we read outloud to each other, but I'm far too isolated to organise it. Did he write "The Trial"? That might be Kafka. After he wrote it Kafka and his friends would read it out to each other and roll around laughing.
Declan
Posted by verne on October 20, 2005, at 1:25:34
In reply to Re: I can't spell Dostoyvesky, posted by Declan on October 20, 2005, at 0:02:52
Declan, you understand that Dostoyoevsky and Kafka were the comedians of their time.
Hard not to roll on the floor when you hear the first few chapters of the unfinished Castle. The surveyor "K" bit is so funny ... it's no wonder he never "arrived".
Notes I read, raw. The real meat is "Crimes and Punishment". I like the Magarshak translaton although I'm not sure it's still available. He captured Dostovesky although I was never fluent in Russian.
Crazy as it seems, I did read all of Dostovesky in German along with the Magarshak translations, in addition to Kafka, of course. In the end, I liked Magarshak's penguin translations best.
Yet, Kafka is my favorite writer. I have all his works - some in German. My german skills have eroded, sadly, but the English translations are excellent. The guy who translated most of Kafka into English was as devoted to Kafka as Max Brod or what's his butt's name.
When it comes to translations, his butt and maybe Magarshak's butt, know no equal. I think they could have finished Kafka's "The Castle"! Did I say that I love Magarshak and "what's his Butt"?
can i direct a little indirect fire on my current position? I hope I don't wake up tomorrow.
By the way, "The Devils" is the best translation. Otherwise known as "The Possessed".
Verne
Posted by verne on October 20, 2005, at 10:37:26
In reply to Re: I can't spell Dostoyvesky » Declan, posted by verne on October 20, 2005, at 1:25:34
Posted by Gabbix2 on October 20, 2005, at 14:39:30
In reply to Re: I can't spell Dostoyvesky, posted by Declan on October 20, 2005, at 0:02:52
AAAAAAACK
"The Trial" was supposed to be funny? I'm dense,
I hate that..
that story gave me the creeps for a week.
Then again Alice in Wonderland and Willy Wonka give me the creeps too.
Doesn't mean I'm not dense though.
Posted by zeugma on October 20, 2005, at 15:50:17
In reply to Re: I can't spell Dostoyvesky » verne, posted by alexandra_k on October 19, 2005, at 19:47:07
> > Too drunk to figure it out. Anyway, I was thinking about a chapter in "Brothers Karamazov" entitled "Rebellion" in the Magarshak translation.
>
> > I believe Ivan says, but I "reject the price of admission".
>
> lol. I had some books of his... Let me see. The Trial. Was that his? It has been so long for me... I haven't read any of that stuff for so long...
>
> But I remember enjoying it immensely.
>
>
> hmm, alexandra, i had been wondering a long time whether you took your posting name from "The Trial"...or any of Kafka's books actually, they all have characters named "K."but since the Internet police are scrutinizing your every move, I imagine you wouldn't want to give them any tipoffs as to whether your bookshelves have any kafka on them.
Now that's kafkaesque... faceless bureaucracy coming here and learning to spell Dostoyevsky (or whatever). Good for them.
-z
Posted by verne on October 20, 2005, at 16:23:01
In reply to I can't spell Dostoyvesky, posted by verne on October 19, 2005, at 19:32:22
Day One not drinking. I'm feeling sheepish. I'm off my high horse. I'm so full of it when I drink.
Played online poker half the night for meaningless tokens and got so obnoxious I cleared the table. I just chatted to myself, saying things, like "I'm such an excellent poker player" after winning a hand.
I guess I'm turning into an ego-centric, anti-social, drunk. Of course, I hope that was the last time.
Verne
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