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Posted by Fallen4MyT on February 1, 2005, at 17:18:36
In reply to Re: Link didn't work for me??? » partlycloudy, posted by gardenergirl on February 1, 2005, at 16:47:37
Maybe he had so many people going over there complaining on dr bob and blocks he put it up I mean there ARE psych patients running to his site saying a LOT about what they felt was an injustice done on to them by Dr Bob in that case I can understand ..If I had say 20 people come to me and say man I feel bad cause of being blocked for saying a word like insensitive..I would perhaps do something like he MAY have done...He may be able to edit but I still feel he MAY not have written it..hackers can be good..I feel indiffernt too..I have read the site and some posts but do not belong to it.
> You're not hallucinating, PC. Unless Tofuemmy and I are too. And she mentioned something in an email about a couple positive responses to it as well, although I never saw those and don't know if they were posted or PM'd.
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> I admit when I read it, it didn't affect me one way or another, though. I guess cause I've read some of Dr. John's stuff about his forum and his views on internet research such as Dr. Bob does. I wasn't surprised by it, and I guess I just feel a bit indifferent. (maybe it's the nardil) :o
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> gg
Posted by partlycloudy on February 1, 2005, at 17:29:31
In reply to Re: Link didn't work for me???, posted by Fallen4MyT on February 1, 2005, at 17:18:36
- and you had to have seen the Bob Bashing as I have before at that site in order to have had the response I did.
Oh well, I can handle being the only one offended. it *was* highly unprofessional, snide, and a final put-off for me. Animation and jumping icons aside, it's no place for me if the "doctor" who runs the place thinks it's appropriate to post such a thing.I better bow out of this thread before I get myself in trouble here.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on February 1, 2005, at 17:43:21
In reply to You had to be there, posted by partlycloudy on February 1, 2005, at 17:29:31
I DO read the boards a lot.
> - and you had to have seen the Bob Bashing as I have before at that site in order to have had the response I did.
> Oh well, I can handle being the only one offended. it *was* highly unprofessional, snide, and a final put-off for me. Animation and jumping icons aside, it's no place for me if the "doctor" who runs the place thinks it's appropriate to post such a thing.
>
> I better bow out of this thread before I get myself in trouble here.
Posted by gardenergirl on February 1, 2005, at 17:48:02
In reply to You had to be there, posted by partlycloudy on February 1, 2005, at 17:29:31
PC,
Your reaction to it is perfectly valid. I remember the Bob-bashing, and probably particpated in my own way at the time. And given that, I can certainly see how that post might appear. I don't disagree with you at all. And given that it is gone now, perhaps he thought it over and decided it might be a bit rude, too?I hope you are not feeling as if your feelings aren't being supported and that's why you are "bowing out"? Unless your bowing out is a self-protective move, and then I understand.
gg
Posted by Dinah on February 1, 2005, at 18:30:26
In reply to You had to be there, posted by partlycloudy on February 1, 2005, at 17:29:31
I empathize.
I gotta admit there's something to be said for an administrator who stands behind what he says, for better or worse. Even if it's for worse.
Posts disappearing or changing would be a bit crazy making for me.
Even if an administrator thinks better of what he says, he should be willing to leave the original up and apologize for it. That's the mature and admirable thing to do.
Posted by partlycloudy on February 1, 2005, at 19:53:52
In reply to Re: You had to be there » partlycloudy, posted by Dinah on February 1, 2005, at 18:30:26
Big exhale. Walking away from the computer (driving 12 miles, cooking dinner, reading a couple of chapters in a book) really helped.
Posted by Dinah on February 1, 2005, at 20:05:28
In reply to Re: You had to be there » Dinah, posted by partlycloudy on February 1, 2005, at 19:53:52
Posted by Gabbix2 on February 1, 2005, at 20:39:28
In reply to Yes, I use that myself. :) (nm) » partlycloudy, posted by Dinah on February 1, 2005, at 20:05:28
He said something like.. I heard whispers that there is a small influx of people coming in from Dr. Bob's site so here are some things I would like you to know about this one:
(This is all I could remember, except that he typed your instead of you're once too)
I believe that suicide is a serious issue and should be dealt with with real life resources therefore suicidal posts are not permitted here.
I try not to micromanage people here or be paternal or maternal! I ask that the posters here treat others the way that they themselves would like to be treated.
Posted by jujube on February 1, 2005, at 20:46:31
In reply to I SAW IT partlycloudy, posted by Gabbix2 on February 1, 2005, at 20:39:28
Posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 20:49:43
In reply to Wow. I am not going there again!, posted by partlycloudy on February 1, 2005, at 13:47:27
http://forums.psychcentral.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=84388&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
> Psych Central's Dr John has a rather patronizing welcome for Babblers joining his site. I can't say that I feel "micro-managed" here, yet that's exactly what he states about PsychoBabble.
>
> I know - who cares what other sites I visit? I was trying to pinpoint where my loyalty to this (PB) darn place originates from, and Dr John's message made it very clear that rather than showing Dr Bob a professional courtesy and civility, by welcoming those who are exploring other places to gather and share information about mental health, he conducts a site where Bob bashing is not only tolerated, but endorsed.
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Posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 20:53:02
In reply to Wow. I am not going there again!, posted by partlycloudy on February 1, 2005, at 13:47:27
http://forums.psychcentral.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=61231&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
Posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 20:54:08
In reply to Wow. I am not going there again!, posted by partlycloudy on February 1, 2005, at 13:47:27
http://forums.psychcentral.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=66303&page=4&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
Posted by 10derHeart on February 1, 2005, at 21:38:07
In reply to Wow. I am not going there again!, posted by partlycloudy on February 1, 2005, at 13:47:27
Never saw that particular welcome, the only one I find now is quite bland and watered-down. Spooky if all posts can be edited - how on earth can one figure out what's *real*? That would be Headache-Central, for me.
Psych Central put me off right away anyway, because I only have a free email account (Yahoo) and they won't permit me to join! Well - excuuuuuuse me!! The heck with ya' then!
I've fallen madly in love with Babble - for better or for worse - so there!
Posted by jujube on February 1, 2005, at 21:46:19
In reply to Re: Wow. I am not going there again!, posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 20:54:08
Angielala,
I can understand why. I guess you have already seen this. Geez. It's pretty unprofessional not to mention unfeeling for someone to insinuate that a poster has an ulterior motive for posting a question.I don't understand the point of that kind of post.
Posted by Gabbix2 on February 1, 2005, at 22:16:49
In reply to Re: Wow. I am not going there again! » Angielala, posted by jujube on February 1, 2005, at 21:46:19
I really didn't think the original response was that unfeeling, but I was sickened by Dr. Grohol chiming in, what was that all about?
I know it's a technicality, that anyone could go over to Grohol's board and read the posts, but somehow I think I'd feel invaded links to my posts from Babble were posted over there for people to mull over.
Posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:21:04
In reply to Re: Wow. I am not going there again! » partlycloudy, posted by 10derHeart on February 1, 2005, at 21:38:07
It makes sense now- he doesn't allow free addresses to sign up because he offends so many and then kicks them off that he wants to make sure that they don't just make another email account and come back to him. Sad that he has to do that, huh?
He edits all the posts- and if people don't like what he said, he takes the posts down and says that they were never there.
> Never saw that particular welcome, the only one I find now is quite bland and watered-down. Spooky if all posts can be edited - how on earth can one figure out what's *real*? That would be Headache-Central, for me.
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> Psych Central put me off right away anyway, because I only have a free email account (Yahoo) and they won't permit me to join! Well - excuuuuuuse me!! The heck with ya' then!
>
> I've fallen madly in love with Babble - for better or for worse - so there!
Posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:22:48
In reply to Re: Wow. I am not going there again! » Angielala, posted by jujube on February 1, 2005, at 21:46:19
I have a feeling Dr. John is not a doctor. I mean I could just start calling myself Doctor too...
At least I know now...
> Angielala,
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> I can understand why. I guess you have already seen this. Geez. It's pretty unprofessional not to mention unfeeling for someone to insinuate that a poster has an ulterior motive for posting a question.
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> http://forums.psychcentral.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=bipolar&Number=108237&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=108068&Search=true&where=&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=d&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post108237
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> I don't understand the point of that kind of post.
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Posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:24:29
In reply to Re: Wow. I am not going there again!, posted by Gabbix2 on February 1, 2005, at 22:16:49
It's easier to link to posts that slam PB than try to explain how to find it... especially when Dr. John likes to fool around with posts so that
he can take back what he said.He's messed with the wrong girl.
> I really didn't think the original response was that unfeeling, but I was sickened by Dr. Grohol chiming in, what was that all about?
>
> I know it's a technicality, that anyone could go over to Grohol's board and read the posts, but somehow I think I'd feel invaded links to my posts from Babble were posted over there for people to mull over.
Posted by jujube on February 1, 2005, at 22:32:08
In reply to Re: Wow. I am not going there again!, posted by Gabbix2 on February 1, 2005, at 22:16:49
I agree. It's very high school in a way. If he had a concern about a poster's motives, he could have sent a private mail message to the person instead of trying to hang the person out to dry.
I have visited the board to see if it is a place where I would feel comfortable posting. I don't see anything wrong with that. I mean, it took me a couple of months before I overcame my fear of posting here (and, I thought the people seemed nice even when I was still lurking). I went back again tonight and saw another offensive not to mention accusatory post.
I don't like games like that. Makes me uncomfortable and puts me on edge.
> I really didn't think the original response was that unfeeling, but I was sickened by Dr. Grohol chiming in, what was that all about?
>
> I know it's a technicality, that anyone could go over to Grohol's board and read the posts, but somehow I think I'd feel invaded links to my posts from Babble were posted over there for people to mull over.
Posted by Gabbix2 on February 1, 2005, at 22:45:04
In reply to Re: Wow. I am not going there again!, posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:24:29
> It's easier to link to posts that slam PB than try to explain how to find it... especially when Dr. John likes to fool around with posts so that
> he can take back what he said.Yes but it's different when it's something he's said, he's fair game. He's messed with you but they haven't. I do feel it's unfair to the posters themselves though, they have a right to discuss what they want, and not have it brought over here, sometimes things are said in the heat of the moment too. What if they change their minds and talk about that, can they be sure that post is going to be found and linked over here as well? Of course not.
I don't want them to feel unwelcome because of something they posted over there. Sure we could read it, but what are the chances of that many of us finding those particular posts? By linking to them they have a larger audience than they ever expected.
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> He's messed with the wrong girl.
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> > I really didn't think the original response was that unfeeling, but I was sickened by Dr. Grohol chiming in, what was that all about?
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> > I know it's a technicality, that anyone could go over to Grohol's board and read the posts, but somehow I think I'd feel invaded links to my posts from Babble were posted over there for people to mull over.
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Posted by Gabbix2 on February 1, 2005, at 22:51:57
In reply to Re: Wow. I am not going there again! » Gabbix2, posted by jujube on February 1, 2005, at 22:32:08
> I agree. It's very high school in a way. If he had a concern about a poster's motives, he could have sent a private mail message to the person instead of trying to hang the person out to dry.
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> I don't like games like that. Makes me uncomfortable and puts me on edge.
>
Absolutely, that was appalling, I'm still disturbed by it. I would think he'd try to be a mature calming influence not egg things on by making baseless accusations, these aren't two sports teams. I can't find words, I just can't.
And the way he said "One of our posters" that's certainly not discouraging division..
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 2, 2005, at 1:19:37
In reply to Re: Wow. I am not going there again! » Angielala, posted by jujube on February 1, 2005, at 21:46:19
> Psych Central's Dr John has a rather patronizing welcome for Babblers joining his site.
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> partlycloudy> Wow, that is so .. soo.... help me find a word, I know there is a good one, a better one than ICKY.. Unnecessary, Unproffessional, Patronizing, I'll stop now.
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> Gabbix2> It's pretty unprofessional not to mention unfeeling
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> jujubeSorry, but please respect the views of others and be sensitive to their feelings. Some people do like it there.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 2:34:33
In reply to Re: Wow. I am not going there again!, posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:21:04
I don't remember what the rules are on this site but I have been to a number of other sites as well as DocJohn's. It is a usual rule not to bring posts or quote posts from another site to the one that you are on. That violates people's privacy and with a psych support site it creates the feeling to the poster that they are no longer in a safe haven. I'm sure that we would be just as upset should they come over here and do the same to us, at least I know I personally would.
Also, for you to make a blanket statement to say that all the posts at DocJohn's site are edited is simply false. I'm sure that he has better things to do with his time than to go around editing everybody's posts and as a poster on that site, I can assure you that none of my posts have been deleted or edited by DocJohn unless I have personally asked him to. I know that your post was deleted but to my understanding, you violated the rules in that thread and that's why it was removed. He has never claimed that it didn't existed. So that again is a false statement.
If you don't like the site, nobody is denying you that priviledge or forcing you to go there, but I would ask you to please honour the privacy and safety of the posters there, just as I would hope that you would do here. Everybody is going to have their favourites as to whatever sites they like and there are a variety to choose from. I post on both sites. Please, let's not put down where someone else who is having problems finds to be a safe haven for them. If you have a problem with DocJohn himself, then limit your discussion to him without involving those who post there in what they perceive to be private. I know I would be upset should a post of mine be dragged over here and if it is then the matter will certainly be addressed. I don't have any secrets that I've said over there but it is a matter of principle and privacy and I want to feel that when I post on a psych forum that I am safe. I'm sure we all want the same.
I'm sorry that this may upset some, it's not my intention but somebody has to speak out for the safety and privacy of the innocent posters, to which I am one.
That's my 2 cents FWIW!!!
AG
> It makes sense now- he doesn't allow free addresses to sign up because he offends so many and then kicks them off that he wants to make sure that they don't just make another email account and come back to him. Sad that he has to do that, huh?
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> He edits all the posts- and if people don't like what he said, he takes the posts down and says that they were never there.
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> > Never saw that particular welcome, the only one I find now is quite bland and watered-down. Spooky if all posts can be edited - how on earth can one figure out what's *real*? That would be Headache-Central, for me.
> >
> > Psych Central put me off right away anyway, because I only have a free email account (Yahoo) and they won't permit me to join! Well - excuuuuuuse me!! The heck with ya' then!
> >
> > I've fallen madly in love with Babble - for better or for worse - so there!
>
>
Posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 2:40:07
In reply to Re: Wow. I am not going there again! » Gabbix2, posted by jujube on February 1, 2005, at 22:32:08
If I recall properly, the rules over there state that certain types of things within posts are not allowed. Should you violate that rule, then your post will be deleted. It is my knowledge that a rule had been broken so therefore; DocJohn followed through with what his rules state would be done and deleted the thread.
If I have been misinformed, then please correct me.
AG
> I agree. It's very high school in a way. If he had a concern about a poster's motives, he could have sent a private mail message to the person instead of trying to hang the person out to dry.
>
> I have visited the board to see if it is a place where I would feel comfortable posting. I don't see anything wrong with that. I mean, it took me a couple of months before I overcame my fear of posting here (and, I thought the people seemed nice even when I was still lurking). I went back again tonight and saw another offensive not to mention accusatory post.
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> I don't like games like that. Makes me uncomfortable and puts me on edge.
>
>
> > I really didn't think the original response was that unfeeling, but I was sickened by Dr. Grohol chiming in, what was that all about?
> >
> > I know it's a technicality, that anyone could go over to Grohol's board and read the posts, but somehow I think I'd feel invaded links to my posts from Babble were posted over there for people to mull over.
>
>
Posted by Angel Girl on February 2, 2005, at 3:02:15
In reply to Re: Wow. I am not going there again!, posted by Angielala on February 1, 2005, at 22:22:48
What do you mean by 'at least I know now'? <confused as usual>
AG
> I have a feeling Dr. John is not a doctor. I mean I could just start calling myself Doctor too...
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> At least I know now...
>
> > Angielala,
> >
> > I can understand why. I guess you have already seen this. Geez. It's pretty unprofessional not to mention unfeeling for someone to insinuate that a poster has an ulterior motive for posting a question.
> >
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> > http://forums.psychcentral.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=bipolar&Number=108237&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=108068&Search=true&where=&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=d&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post108237
> >
> > I don't understand the point of that kind of post.
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