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Posted by Jai Narayan on August 20, 2004, at 11:10:26
Which religions state that their God is the only God?
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 20, 2004, at 12:48:30
In reply to Which religions state that their God is the....., posted by Jai Narayan on August 20, 2004, at 11:10:26
Posted by Jai Narayan on August 20, 2004, at 14:00:15
In reply to Re: how about if we don't get into that? (nm), posted by Dr. Bob on August 20, 2004, at 12:48:30
Okay, I will back away from that question.
***I am offended by the following post:
>I'll bet God has an opinion about it. As well as the answer.
>His is the only opinion and answer I care about -
****And especially this part of it:
>the rest of us are merely speculating based upon our finite experiences.
***how do I address this?
Posted by Dena on August 20, 2004, at 15:03:54
In reply to okay then I will ask you a question Dr. B, posted by Jai Narayan on August 20, 2004, at 14:00:15
> Okay, I will back away from that question.
>
> ***I am offended by the following post:
>
> >I'll bet God has an opinion about it. As well as the answer.
>
> >His is the only opinion and answer I care about -
>
> ****And especially this part of it:
>
> >the rest of us are merely speculating based upon our finite experiences.
>
> ***how do I address this?
If there IS a God, and He is therefore the one who created everything and set it all in order - His order,then it follows that His opinion about everything would be the only correct opinion. Not mine, not yours, but His.
He, being the Creator, is the more supreme being, compared to us, the creatures. An analogy: how could the clay tell the potter what's what?
Each of us, as creations of the creator, has a finite mind, and a finite set of experiences from which to draw our opinions. Thus, we can be mistaken in our opinions about infinite things. When I said, "the rest of us are merely speculating based upon our finite experiences," I was including myself in "the rest of us".
The Creator, who posesses an infinite mind, and isn't limited by anything, is the source of all truth.
I, speaking as only one of the billions of creations, choose to revere the opinion of the infinite Creator, over the opinion of any of the finite creatures. Including my own.
If I've said something illogical, then correct me.
Or is it time for me to be blocked for 64 weeks, so soon?
Shalom, Dena
Posted by rayww on August 20, 2004, at 15:58:18
In reply to Re: okay then I will ask you a question Dr. B, posted by Dena on August 20, 2004, at 15:03:54
Do we think too fast and write too slow, or write too fast and think too slow? Or soon?
It is really easy to write something that when interrigated and picked apart, takes our thought naked on stage. Funny, but I don't think I have a thought that I would want to parade naked in front of anyone. But, having thus said, hello, here we all are.
Posted by Jai Narayan on August 20, 2004, at 16:00:04
In reply to Re: okay then I will ask you a question Dr. B, posted by Dena on August 20, 2004, at 15:03:54
I do not want you blocked. I just wanted a dialogue on God but Dr. B seems to want me to back off. Go figure?
I wanted clarity about your statement not to have you blocked.
My dialogue is with Dr. B, I guess.
So I stated why I would want to have this dialogue. Am I making sense?
I don't want to be offended....I want clarity.
But without a dialogue no clarity.
I don't know Dena, I am confused.
Posted by Dena on August 20, 2004, at 22:52:40
In reply to Re: okay then I will ask you a question Dr. B, posted by Jai Narayan on August 20, 2004, at 16:00:04
> I do not want you blocked. I just wanted a dialogue on God but Dr. B seems to want me to back off. Go figure?
> I wanted clarity about your statement not to have you blocked.
> My dialogue is with Dr. B, I guess.
> So I stated why I would want to have this dialogue. Am I making sense?
> I don't want to be offended....I want clarity.
> But without a dialogue no clarity.
> I don't know Dena, I am confused.
I share your frustration, at least.Isn't it interesting how a message board about faith would discourage it's members from talking about how various faiths view God?
I've wondered more than once just what the purpose of this board IS.
For me, it's all about the sport of walking the spiritual tightrope ... should I speak what I know to be the truth, even though I get blocked? Or should I compromise my beliefs in order to make everyone else happy?
Just what IS the point here?
Shalom, Dena
Posted by Jai Narayan on August 21, 2004, at 8:20:44
In reply to Re: okay then I will ask you a question Dr. B, posted by Dena on August 20, 2004, at 22:52:40
Got me Dena...
Maybe Dr. B thought you might get blocked if you talked about God?
He was worried about you.
I think that is sweet but how can we understand each other if we can't converse?
I can see how if we get into a conflict then maybe we'd be hurt and not post at all??Too bad there aren't some clear rules of discourse so that ideas and beliefs are hashed out and looked at.
If both parties come to the discussion with an open mind and want to discuss the differences and take note of the way they are similar....Maybe it's too tricky with emotions and hurt feelings?
We do have a fundemental difference in our world view/belief.
So maybe that would stop us from communicating.So this board is all about harmony and support.
I guess I can see his point.So I will not ask the hard questions.
I will just appreciate and enjoy your (and others) love of the Divine and our shared excitement of the spirit.Shalom, Dena
Jai Narayan sisters in the spirit
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 22, 2004, at 0:27:50
In reply to Re: okay then I will ask you a question Dr. B, posted by Jai Narayan on August 20, 2004, at 16:00:04
> >the rest of us are merely speculating based upon our finite experiences.
>
> ***how do I address this?> I wanted clarity about your statement
Sorry it's hard to have some discussions here, but IMO, some topics are delicate ones.
I think she tried to clarify that statement, is it that you still have questions about it?
Bob
Posted by NikkiT2 on August 22, 2004, at 8:18:21
In reply to Re: okay then I will ask you a question Dr. B, posted by Dena on August 20, 2004, at 22:52:40
My understanding is that in order to respect other people beliefs, it is better to not say there IS only one God, and that one God is the God you believe in, as that is telling other people that their beliefs are wrong.
I, personally, don't believe in any God.. but I have no proof that my opinion is correct, so I would never tell someone that their belief is incorrect.
I have posted here about my beliefs, and I have been told I am wrong. Yes, that upsets me, as this is all simply about beliefs.. To me, its not a simple yes or no, black or white answer.
Many believe different hings around the world, and no one is better or worse, or more right or wrong, than anyone else.
Just my humble opinion.
Nikki
Posted by Jai Narayan on August 22, 2004, at 9:01:13
In reply to Re: okay then I will ask you a question Dr. B » Dena, posted by NikkiT2 on August 22, 2004, at 8:18:21
You said what I wasn't able to voice.
My heart, mind, soul, and body thanks you!
I wrote pages on this issue, I worked out, took a steam and cried about this issue and prayed that somehow I could address this issue and then.....
easy as pie you said it.
Wow, I feel relieved.
This board appears to be dominated by a kind of judgement.
I wonder if it has chased away many people who would like to express their beliefs.
I hope we can open the doors to this site to all religions and beliefs and have more information about flowing in the posts.
Thank you NikkiT2
Posted by tai daluna on September 10, 2004, at 3:45:02
In reply to thank you NikkiT2, posted by Jai Narayan on August 22, 2004, at 9:01:13
i do not exclude any form of belief, as i believe they are representations of our desiring toward an understanding of the unknown-- i agree with dena that the finite mind cannot possibly conceive of the infinite... that is why it is hard for me to appreciate a monotheistic, absolutist approach to religion and religious practice. i prefer to leave it much more open.
there are things i can never know. the taoists caution about arguing about the universe, as it has taken care of itself for a long, long time...
peace.
tai
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