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Posted by torrid on June 23, 2011, at 16:00:06
Studies I've read all used 10-20 grams high ratio epa:dha fish oil. the austalia study used a product called eye q and they used 16gm. from my reading I'm getting the picture that it's more about ratio between the fats in our diet when it comes to health benifits. the ratio of vegtable oils from processed foods to omega's, the ration of omega's3:6, ratio 3:9 and ratio of epa:dha. I think 2 capsols of omega mood in someone who eats no processed foods may be like 10 capsols in a fast foods gunky. any one following my thinking? Am I on to something?
Posted by Christ_empowered on June 23, 2011, at 19:34:11
In reply to australia study ADHD used 16grams fish oil, posted by torrid on June 23, 2011, at 16:00:06
I imagine the ratio would be important, yes, but you also have to think: they're using natural substances in super-high doses to change brain chemistry. They're basic mega-dosing stuff to get results you'd ordinarily need a pharmaceutical product for. I don't know about fish oil, but I have read here and there that with supplements, if you take a number of things at standard/reasonable doses, you don't need as much of any one ingredient to get the effect you're going for.
Example: I take 3 grams niacinamide for my anxiety. It acts on GABA, but I used to need a benzo for extra oomph. Since adding in 6 grams taurine, I'm relatively calm. Both of these supplements are within the normal/high-normal dosage range.
Maybe instead of focusing just on the fish oil, you could whip up a cocktail of inexpensive supplements at reasonable doses that, when combined, do what you're looking for. Just a thought.
Posted by torrid on June 25, 2011, at 10:22:57
In reply to Re: australia study ADHD used 16grams fish oil, posted by Christ_empowered on June 23, 2011, at 19:34:11
my thinking was that maybe the 2-4 grams of omega mood could acts as double or triple due to it's ration to other fats in my impeckably good diet.
You brought up a point that troubles me in my mind and my wallet, high doses of suppliments. I just don't know how I feel about taking high doses. would you say these doses are high? NAC, folate and niacin to me seem high, I also get b12 shots.
NAC 3,600mg
ALCAR 1,000mg
folate 3,600mg
Bcomplex high potentcy
multi vit/min
magnisium glycinate 800mg
niacin 500mg
SAMe 400-1600mg 3-5 times a week
omega mood 1,500mg epa 225 dha mg
considering adding D3 in winterthat's my cocktail. what do you think of these doses. It took me a couple years of trying different things out, but SAMe is the only one of these I know for sure has a positive effect. I think the NAC is working but can't say for sure. All the others I'm taking in hopes that it will have a positive impact on my life. Doing things to help myself could also have a positive effect on it's own but I hope these suppliments are realy helping me.
Posted by zatar on August 20, 2011, at 14:15:41
In reply to Re: australia study ADHD used 16grams fish oil » Christ_empowered, posted by torrid on June 25, 2011, at 10:22:57
In studies, attention deficits and impulsivity are usually mentioned as being helped by EPA. What about executive functions (e.g. planning, organization, time management etc.). I never read about them. Are they helped?
-Zatar
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