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Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:19
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me, posted by Dinah on July 13, 2012, at 20:07:14
hey phillipa...just curious to know who it is...anyways my babblemail is not on...maybe like facebook and ill keep it confidencial. Thanks...but reatlly theres some posters here that judge me on a sitation I can't even change for the current period of time. It's like when im posing for some support the opposite thing happens...which is not ironic...but it just irratates me that people judge grass for not growing in the desert....well theres alot of evil stuff people plan and say in their minds so it doesnt suprise me....
love ya!
rj
Posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:20
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me » Dinah, posted by zazenducke on July 13, 2012, at 19:08:01
> Dinah my personal experience and observation of you was that you bullied others during your time as a deputy.
Where was I during these times? I was gone for about 1 1/2 years several years ago. Maybe these things occurred during my absence? Otherwise, I must disagree with your opinion. I don't know what you experienced personally or otherwise observed, but the word "bullying" represents a judgment of a behavior, and not the behavior itself. My best guess is that you and I read the same posts, but perceived them very differently. I did not see behaviors of Dinah that would lead me to judge her actions to be bullying.
Perhaps this thread should be redirected to Administration.
- Scott
Posted by 10derheart on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:20
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me » zazenducke, posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 0:44:49
>>Perhaps this thread should be redirected to Administration.
Yuh. Fat chance of that. Or perhaps only *my* recent pleadings for redirections and other things fall on the deaf ears of any "administration."
Posted by 10derheart on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:20
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me, posted by Dinah on July 13, 2012, at 20:07:14
Doubt it. In fact,.....well, nevermind.
Posted by marylou333 on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:21
In reply to If you Can't Say Anything Nice Say Nothing, posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2012, at 12:21:46
I an a lurker , but to me all the mods had many flaw,s to judge posts. Take Dinah, many problems herself, carnt even function without a theropist for 20 years. Who needs theropist for 20 year,s thats not healthy, her husband must feel a little inadequate. Theropy that long is wrong what more can be said after 20 years you carn tell you husband. Totally wrong to judge other peoples post when she needs a theropist herself just to survive. Dinah what if he dies tommorow do you.
Posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:21
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Say Nothing, posted by marylou333 on July 14, 2012, at 4:12:44
> I an a lurker , but to me all the mods had many flaw,s to judge posts. Take Dinah, many problems herself, carnt even function without a theropist for 20 years. Who needs theropist for 20 year,s thats not healthy, her husband must feel a little inadequate. Theropy that long is wrong what more can be said after 20 years you carn tell you husband. Totally wrong to judge other peoples post when she needs a theropist herself just to survive. Dinah what if he dies tommorow do you.
Don't we already know you?
I think there should be some discourse on Administration about how to handle situations in which a blocked poster infiltrates a thread. Is it desirable to delete the whole thread, or only those posts made by the offender? As things are managed at the moment, I foresee this whole thread disappearing. That, of course, is ruinous to the contributions of others.
I'd like to see more written about the phenomenologies of spanking, physical abuse, and neglect, and how these things affect the psyche of the child and his social environment. However, I would say that the Psychology board is a better forum for such a discussion.
- Scott
Posted by Dinah on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:22
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me » zazenducke, posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 0:44:49
Thanks Scott.
A simple statement like that can ease a lot of hurt.
Posted by Dinah on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:22
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me » Dinah, posted by 10derheart on July 14, 2012, at 1:27:19
Well, I didn't want to make any assumptions. :(
Posted by Dinah on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:23
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me » SLS, posted by 10derheart on July 14, 2012, at 1:26:23
Not only yours. Before long I daresay we'll fall into learned helplessness and quit trying to reach Dr. Bob at all.
Posted by marylou333 on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:23
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me » 10derheart, posted by Dinah on July 14, 2012, at 5:55:34
Its a valid point to all blocked posters, mods with problem , moderating babble,s with different problems, carnt be done im affraid, like other,s with strong religious belief, telling you the power of god while suffeing hidious depression for 40 years, why believe if the guy distroys your life, its like takeing a med that is totally wrong for you , but you still keep takeing it.This forum hasnt moved on in years ,same med advice ,shuffled around like a pack of cards, we have just come full circle for the 10th time.And everyone is just the same totally wasted of all thats normal in life. NEW MEDS ,there is no new meds just remixes old meds, all the new ground breakers have disolved in there own hype an side effects. Why is it on babble that normal mentally ill people that get mad though stress or illness are told to be cival, like they are a fully ajusted adult because if thats what they were then babble would be the last thing on there mind., No real welcome for newbies with there first med , they dont come hear after haveing the posts egnored because there to trivial. There nobody in, an the light have gone out. HOW MANY BABBLERS DOSE IT TAKE TO CHANGE A LIGHT BULB
Posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:23
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me, posted by marylou333 on July 14, 2012, at 7:01:02
> HOW MANY BABBLERS DOSE IT TAKE TO CHANGE A LIGHT BULB
None.
The light here always shines bright. Some people don't like the light, though. It's an occasional poster who sometimes burns out. Depression is darkness. If exposed to the light of caring and understanding people, such burned-out posters often renew their source of inner energy to shine again.
- Scott
Posted by zazenducke on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:24
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me » zazenducke, posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 0:44:49
> > Dinah my personal experience and observation of you was that you bullied others during your time as a deputy.
>
> Where was I during these times? I was gone for about 1 1/2 years several years ago. Maybe these things occurred during my absence? Otherwise, I must disagree with your opinion. I don't know what you experienced personally or otherwise observed, but the word "bullying" represents a judgment of a behavior, and not the behavior itself. My best guess is that you and I read the same posts, but perceived them very differently.
Of course it represents a judgement Scott. Judgement is not a bad thing! Your belief that you were mistreated during your childhood is just a judgement on your part. If nobody agreed with your judgement would it mean it didn't happen?
Bullying can easily be condoned or overlooked by people who choose to. And part of the Babble culture included just that.
I did not see behaviors of Dinah that would lead me to judge her actions to be bullying.
>I wouldn't expect you to Scott, but not because they weren't as I described. You are very invested in the status quo here and your deference towards authority has always been remarkable.
> Perhaps this thread should be redirected to Administration.
Please direct your future responses to Administration. Be the change you want to see!!!
>
>
> - Scott
Posted by zazenducke on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:24
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me, posted by marylou333 on July 14, 2012, at 7:01:02
Posted by sleepygirl2 on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:25
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Say Nothing, posted by marylou333 on July 14, 2012, at 4:12:44
Hey,
Wtf?
How is that anything but cruel?
Do you think of yourself that way?
Posted by zazenducke on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:25
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Say Nothing, posted by marylou333 on July 14, 2012, at 4:12:44
Dinah has permission to engage in therapy at will as long as it doesn't interfere with her wifely duties. (Sorry I couldn't resist I always thought that was one of the all time funniest posts)
> I an a lurker , but to me all the mods had many flaw,s to judge posts. Take Dinah, many problems herself, carnt even function without a theropist for 20 years. Who needs theropist for 20 year,s thats not healthy, her husband must feel a little inadequate. Theropy that long is wrong what more can be said after 20 years you carn tell you husband. Totally wrong to judge other peoples post when she needs a theropist herself just to survive. Dinah what if he dies tommorow do you.
Posted by marylou333 on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:25
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me » marylou333, posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 7:17:05
SCOTT, do you talk mabye of Dracular with your crap random try at a put down. look man give up trying to be dr, bob juinor an a theropist at the same time, your just a middle class unemployed internet surfer,nothing more nothing less. You may have had your fan club 5 years ago , but alas no more,people have seen you crash an burn more than Martin Sheen , so they got on there bike an rode into the sunset
Posted by Emily Elizabeth on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:26
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me, posted by marylou333 on July 14, 2012, at 8:47:14
Ironically, I think this thread proves the point that we are incapable of monitoring ourselves.
It saddens me to see kindhearted people like Dinah and Scott attacked. We don't all need to agree on everything to have conversations.
Best,
EE
Posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:26
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me » SLS, posted by zazenducke on July 14, 2012, at 7:20:35
> > I did not see behaviors of Dinah that would lead me to judge her actions to be bullying.
> I wouldn't expect you to Scott, but not because they weren't as I described. You are very invested in the status quo here and your deference towards authority has always been remarkable.
You are very predictable, if not consistent. I would have expected nothing less of you than to assume suppositions about my attitudes, loyalties, investments, need for stasis, and my complex relationship with authority. Simplistic rhetoric coming from you is disappointing. Actually, I was wondering what took you so long.
> > Perhaps this thread should be redirected to Administration.
> Please direct your future responses to Administration. Be the change you want to see!!!I would, except I don't know how. Could you please explain to me how to go about redirecting a thread?
Thanks.
As you have an opinion, so have I.
Gotta stir those pots...
- Scott
Posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:26
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me, posted by marylou333 on July 14, 2012, at 8:47:14
> SCOTT, do you talk mabye of Dracular with your crap random try at a put down. look man give up trying to be dr, bob juinor an a theropist at the same time, your just a middle class unemployed internet surfer,nothing more nothing less. You may have had your fan club 5 years ago , but alas no more,people have seen you crash an burn more than Martin Sheen , so they got on there bike an rode into the sunset
Sorry. I confused you for Manic666.
I apologize.
It is doubtful that I shall confuse the two of you again.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:26
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me, posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 9:49:21
Scott if only you had your babblemail on :( Phillipa
Posted by zazenducke on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:27
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me » zazenducke, posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 9:47:29
> > > I did not see behaviors of Dinah that would lead me to judge her actions to be bullying.
>
> > I wouldn't expect you to Scott, but not because they weren't as I described. You are very invested in the status quo here and your deference towards authority has always been remarkable.
>
> You are very predictable, if not consistent. I would have expected nothing less of you than to assume suppositions about my attitudes, loyalties, investments, need for stasis, and my complex relationship with authority. Simplistic rhetoric coming from you is disappointing. Actually, I was wondering what took you so long.I'm sorry you were disappointed. It was a simple statement of my observations and thoughts.
>
> > > Perhaps this thread should be redirected to Administration.
>
> > Please direct your future responses to Administration. Be the change you want to see!!!
>
> I would, except I don't know how. Could you please explain to me how to go about redirecting a thread?
>
> Thanks.Scott I wasn't suggesting you redirect the thread just your part of it since that is all you have control over and you are the one who wants this change. Just start a new topic on Admin for yourself and cut and paste anything you want to reply to.
>
> As you have an opinion, so have I.
>
> Gotta stir those pots...
>Good Luck with your culinary endeavors!
Posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:27
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me » SLS, posted by zazenducke on July 14, 2012, at 10:33:41
> > > > I did not see behaviors of Dinah that would lead me to judge her actions to be bullying.
> >
> > > I wouldn't expect you to Scott, but not because they weren't as I described. You are very invested in the status quo here and your deference towards authority has always been remarkable.
> >
> > You are very predictable, if not consistent. I would have expected nothing less of you than to assume suppositions about my attitudes, loyalties, investments, need for stasis, and my complex relationship with authority. Simplistic rhetoric coming from you is disappointing. Actually, I was wondering what took you so long.
> I'm sorry you were disappointed. It was a simple statement of my observations and thoughts.Perhaps they would have been better left unsaid in this environment. You must surely have a following on Psycho-Babble that looks forward with excitement to know your next statements that detail your observations and thoughts. I do not.
I don't think you are qualified to identify bullying in others (an irony). According to what I found when using Google, your characterization of Dinah as being a bully is inaccurate.
Here's the Wiki entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullying
> > Gotta stir those pots...
> Good Luck with your culinary endeavors!
I don't cook. I thought you might.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:27
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me » zazenducke, posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 10:51:50
I'm sorry.
This is getting stupid.
- Scott
Posted by marylou333 on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:28
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me » zazenducke, posted by SLS on July 14, 2012, at 9:47:29
The plain truth is the mods had the power on Babble at one time, an they did whatever bob or they wanted to do, which was power related ,crushing anyone who go up there nose. Crazy ban,s longer than jail for murder in some case,s ,humiliation to mentaly sick people was the result.I say that being cival is the way you look at a person,not the way they may act under depression.More distess was caused by blocks than any illness they suffered, it was like your shrink had struck you off for just for being ill .It was all for website rateing,s ,block the people who may harm the rateings never mind it may make them even more ill.Thank common sence that now web sites except people rant in illness and are not puppets for a website rateing. People see babble an same people still ill after everyones med advice .You have been posting years with the same illness, why would the want to listen to someone telling them how to treat something they carnt treat for themself. An scott im working class so cut the dictionary talk it not smart its toe curling
Posted by zazenducke on July 14, 2012, at 19:26:28
In reply to Re: If you Can't Say Anything Nice Talk To Me, posted by marylou333 on July 14, 2012, at 12:57:37
Thanks for the link Scott.I think Mary Lou made my points. It's about power. The power to block did hurt people and it was intentional. The deputies knew people might be blocked for months at a time when they acted. It was their choice. I believe the bullying that took place by Dinah was consistent with social aggression. It's purpose was social exclusion. Shaming labeling coercion etc etc etc. As someone with power she had more responsibility than if she was just a poster. She stood by while others were bullied by Bob and did nothing but enforce the bullying policies. It was her choice. But I'm sure she has other good and useful qualities.
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Bullying is an act of repeated aggressive behavior in order to intentionally hurt another person, physically or mentally. Bullying is characterized by an individual behaving in a certain way to gain power over another person.[16]Norwegian researcher Dan Olweus defines bullying as when a person is
"exposed, repeatedly and over time, to negative actions on the part of one or more other persons." He defines negative action as "when a person intentionally inflicts injury or discomfort upon another person, through physical contact, through words or in other ways".[17]
General
Bullying behavior may include name calling, verbal or written abuse, exclusion from activities, exclusion from social situations, physical abuse, or coercion.[13][18] Bullies may behave this way to be perceived as popular or tough or to get attention. They may bully out of jealousy or be acting out because they themselves are bullied.[19]
U.S. National Center for Education Statistics suggests that bullying can be classified into two categories:
Direct bullying, and
indirect bullying (which is also known as social aggression).[1]Ross states that direct bullying involves a great deal of physical aggression, such as shoving and poking, throwing things, slapping, choking, punching and kicking, beating, stabbing, pulling hair, scratching, biting, scraping, and pinching.[20]
He also suggests that social aggression or indirect bullying is characterized by attempting to socially isolate the victim. This isolation is achieved through a wide variety of techniques, including spreading gossip, refusing to socialize with the victim, bullying other people who wish to socialize with the victim, and criticizing the victim's manner of dress and other socially-significant markers (including the victim's race, religion, disability, sex, or sexual preference, etc.). Ross[20] outlines other forms of indirect bullying which are more subtle and more likely to be verbal, such as name calling, the silent treatment, arguing others into submission, manipulation, gossip/false gossip, lies, rumors/false rumors, staring, giggling, laughing at the victim, saying certain words that trigger a reaction from a past event, and mocking. The UK based children's charity, Act Against Bullying, was set up in 2003 to help children who were victims of this type of bullying by researching and publishing coping skills.
It has been noted that there tend to be differences in how bullying manifests itself between the sexes. Males tend to be more likely to be physically aggressive whereas females tend to favour exclusion and mockery, though it has been noticed that females are becoming more physical in their bullying,[16] whereas conversely, males tend to opt for exclusion and mockery rather than physical aggression when the victim is perceived as too strong, or being physical would otherwise cause problems for the bullies (i.e., cowardice), and/or the bullies see physical aggression as immature (i.e., the bullying is occurring among adults).
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