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Posted by Sigismund on April 21, 2009, at 20:38:01
In reply to Re: an opportunity » alexandra_k, posted by Dinah on April 21, 2009, at 19:16:54
Alex is back!
This has made my day.
Posted by rskontos on April 21, 2009, at 21:40:26
In reply to Re: an opportunity » rskontos, posted by Sigismund on April 20, 2009, at 19:29:24
Yep that is something I noticed too.
rsk
Posted by rskontos on April 21, 2009, at 21:48:09
In reply to Re: an opportunity, posted by alexandra_k on April 21, 2009, at 20:06:55
>>Your presence here is not benign.>>>
AMEN!
rsk
Posted by Cass on April 21, 2009, at 22:21:54
In reply to Re: an opportunity » alexandra_k, posted by rskontos on April 21, 2009, at 21:48:09
My participation here has been sporadic for years now, and I don't know the circumstances surrounding people who have been blocked. I'm not going to take the time or energy to look in the archives. From my own experience, I've found Dr. Bob to be very kind. I can hardly believe he would arbitrarily block someone without reason. All this commotion makes me sad. It seems like some of you are villainizing him. I don't believe he is the cruel person some of you make him out to be.
Posted by Sigismund on April 22, 2009, at 3:01:30
In reply to Re: an opportunity, posted by Cass on April 21, 2009, at 22:21:54
>I can hardly believe he would arbitrarily block someone without reason.
He wouldn't.
You're right.
But he does arbitrarily block people.
I'm sure he has he has reasons.
That's why I described the blocks as capricious, meaning of a whim ie for reasons of his own.
Posted by Cass on April 22, 2009, at 18:20:19
In reply to Re: an opportunity » Cass, posted by Sigismund on April 22, 2009, at 3:01:30
I guess I stepped right into that.
Posted by myco on April 22, 2009, at 22:11:27
In reply to Imps are never around when you need them » Dinah, posted by verne on April 21, 2009, at 8:58:15
this piece of sh*t they call verne is still posting here? lol damn
> I'm such a dim bulb, I only understood about 1% of your post. How can a post be that long yet still be incomprehensible?
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> I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, especially Dr Bob's, or appeal to any sort of logic - unless it's real low-watt or twisted.
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> I just like to cause the maximum amount of trouble and let others sort it out.
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> More weight.
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> the imp
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Posted by verne on April 23, 2009, at 1:18:37
In reply to Re: Imps are never around when you need them » verne, posted by myco on April 22, 2009, at 22:11:27
this piece of sh*t they call verne is still posting here?
I ask myself that question,too.
Posted by verne on April 23, 2009, at 14:03:47
In reply to I'm a complete Piece of Something » myco, posted by verne on April 23, 2009, at 1:18:37
I just realized I forgot to double quote a movie I mentioned earlier in this thread.
Some critics include it in their top ten yet it has almost disappeared.
"King Rat" Set in a Japanese POW camp but it's more than a war or prison movie. "Lord of the Flies" comes to mind. King Rat is a great movie and Lord of the Flies, a great book. Movie wasn't terrible but preferred the book.
"Verne"
Posted by raisinb on April 23, 2009, at 17:13:59
In reply to Re: an opportunity, posted by Dinah on April 21, 2009, at 8:23:43
Dinah, that was a sensitive and helpful clarification. Thank you. I agree with all you've said, and I am glad that you are a deputy.
Posted by verne on April 23, 2009, at 17:24:41
In reply to Re: an opportunity » Dinah, posted by raisinb on April 23, 2009, at 17:13:59
Dinah meant well and good but straining at "peace" doesn't work. Sometimes the peacemakers cause more trouble than the troublemakers.
Vribble von QuibblesWorth
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 24, 2009, at 2:01:57
In reply to Bob's attention span » fayeroe, posted by fayeroe on April 17, 2009, at 10:20:14
> Bob, you have the attention span of a gnat
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person, and I'm sorry if this hurts.
More information about posting policies and tips on alternative ways to express oneself are in the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
PS: According to the formula:
duration of previous block: 2 weeks
period of time since previous block: 4 weeks
severity: 2 (default)
block length = 3.70 rounded = 4 weeks
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 24, 2009, at 2:06:59
In reply to I'm a complete Piece of Something » myco, posted by verne on April 23, 2009, at 1:18:37
> Hmmmm, well, sometimes, in the name of chartitablness and acceptance, we can *first* warn, immediately B4 punish(like 24 hrs) THEN if no satisfaction, perhaps a SHORT block.
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> blocking posters, effectively banishing them for WEEKS, MONTHS at a time isn't exactly accepting behaviour....I expect it FEELS more like 'F off you disgusting person'... :-(
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> Less shooting is good BUT, one thing that seems intrinsic to therapy, is that when there ARE breakdowns, some of the greatest gains are made by REPAIR of the relationship. If you block for weeks at a time, the window of opportunity for repair is lost.
> Conflict AND a chance for repair = growth...
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> Dude, you think we not care bout Pat??? Of COURSE we do, DUUUUUHHHHHH.
> I also know, that she is a smart , intelligent woman, who knows the rules here, who knows what is what.
> She is NOT STUPID.
> Sh*t.
> This where you really don't get it do you?
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> Everyboddys got their 'stuff', you too Bob, thats OK, but manoman, you surely make me nuts from time to time.
> LOL! Mebbe cuz I care hey?
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> Muffled> > The "herd" here seems to be willing to let Fayeroe fall overboard. But maybe people are trying to support her behind the scenes. I hope so.
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> This baffles me. How is Fayeroe falling overboard?
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> rsk> helping others "rephrase" or whatever is not "supporting" them--it's supporting you and your current policies.
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> raisinb> If you really cared for your black sister you would tell her to stand the hell up and give the white man his seat.
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> Can't you see how f*ck*ng offensive that is?
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> alexandra_kThis isn't therapy, but repair still would be nice. But the more conflict there's been, the harder it is. But it's not impossible even after weeks or months -- or years.
Blocks are about posts, not posters, though I understand posters may still take them personally. How short should blocks be? Around a month maximum was suggested before.
I saw being blocked as like falling overboard. I see how apologizing or rephrasing would support my civility policy (and repair), but not how it would support my blocking policy. Is civility or blocking the issue? I haven't meant to imply that anyone doesn't care about Fayeroe. I did think helping her stay on board was one way to show caring. Would you want your sister to go to jail?
Muffled, thanks for caring.
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> > helping them avoid a block afterwards just means one fewer missing loved one.
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> Why did you ask us so many times to get Verne and Jade to apologize to you? After the fact..
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> FayeroeSo we wouldn't lose more loved ones.
> Capricious blocks (zazenducke) inevitably lead to resentment.
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> SigismundCaprice is in the eye of the beholder. Resentment may lead to uncivil posts that lead to blocks.
> For reasons not clear to me, some people get the chance to apologise and some do not.
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> SigismundEveryone always has the chance to apologize, and to encourage others to apologize, right away. I thought more opportunity to try that out might help, so I've been giving posters extra time when it's involved me lately.
> I think jade thought quite hard and tried to come up with as close to an aplogy as she could muster, though it perhaps was more an explanation.
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> SigismundI haven't meant to imply that she didn't try her best. Maybe she could've used some advice on form, after all.
> I *do* think that sometimes posters are fully cognizant of the results of their posts, and would not consider other posters urging them to apologize as supportive. I think that posters are trying to convey that to Dr. Bob right now. I do understand that a poster has the right to choose to protest what they see as unjust laws by choosing to do what they are aware will result in a block.
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> DinahThat's a good point, it could be another way of being true to oneself. A form of civil disobedience. But when people are civilly disobedient, they accept the consequences.
> verne is still posting here? lol damn
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> mycoand myco too? lol damn
Bob
Posted by Dinah on April 24, 2009, at 16:19:16
In reply to The problem with Peacemakers, posted by verne on April 23, 2009, at 17:24:41
True enough, Verne, as I've often discovered to my dismay.
"the wisdom to know the difference" is the part of the Serenity Prayer I find myself saying most often.
Posted by Dinah on April 24, 2009, at 16:19:59
In reply to Re: an opportunity » Dinah, posted by raisinb on April 23, 2009, at 17:13:59
Thanks, Raisinb. I never quite know if I should get involved.
Posted by raisinb on April 24, 2009, at 17:06:24
In reply to Re: an opportunity » raisinb, posted by Dinah on April 24, 2009, at 16:19:59
With all this going on, I appreciate how difficult the job must be! Keep on truckin' ;)
Posted by BayLeaf on April 24, 2009, at 22:35:01
In reply to Re: blocked for 4 weeks » fayeroe, posted by Dr. Bob on April 24, 2009, at 2:01:57
1) why can u not handle being called a gnat? how 'bout a gnewt? just curious...do you have an issue with insects? or the silent g?
2) Is 1 month now the new black? (max?)
Posted by Sigismund on April 26, 2009, at 23:56:38
In reply to Re: blocked for 4 weeks » Dr. Bob, posted by BayLeaf on April 24, 2009, at 22:35:01
Pat must understand the maths.
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 30, 2009, at 9:27:02
In reply to Re: blocked for 4 weeks » Dr. Bob, posted by BayLeaf on April 24, 2009, at 22:35:01
> 1) why can u not handle being called a gnat? ... do you have an issue with insects?
Should people here be expected to handle being called names?
Some people here might like to be able to call others names. But some people here would prefer not to be called names. We can't have it both ways. My opinion is that it'll be a more supportive community if people don't call each other names. Even though it can be therapeutic for individuals to express themselves.
> 2) Is 1 month now the new black? (max?)
There weren't any replies when I asked for input, so no, nothing's changed.
Bob
Posted by alexandra_k on April 30, 2009, at 14:57:10
In reply to Re: an issue with insects, posted by Dr. Bob on April 30, 2009, at 9:27:02
> > 2) Is 1 month now the new black? (max?)
> There weren't any replies when I asked for input, so no, nothing's changed.And of course the number of posters who have requested this in a number of posts over the years, well, their views are irrelevant because they don't jump to post the same old same old to a particular thread that Bob shows an interest in probably only precisely because people have given up saying anything at all considering it basically to be a waste of breath.
Posted by verne on April 30, 2009, at 18:18:33
In reply to Re: an issue with insects, posted by alexandra_k on April 30, 2009, at 14:57:10
I agree with Alex K. Look in the archives.
There are pages of posts about blocks and the "penal colony".
Dr Bob may have "modernized" but let's not remember the fallen posters in more primitive times. They sang a true and honest tune, maybe danced a little, and said that blocks were excessive.
I think Dr Bob tired of his own game, or dance number, and almost overnight, lightened up.
Dr Bob has changed and we posters must now catch up - upgrade. This is Dr Bob 2.0
Verne
Posted by BayLeaf on April 30, 2009, at 19:02:07
In reply to Re: an issue with insects, posted by Dr. Bob on April 30, 2009, at 9:27:02
> 2) Is 1 month now the new black? (max?)
>>There weren't any replies when I asked for input, so no, nothing's changed.
>>Bob
Aren't you embarrased to post something like that??
You have read hundreds of posts asking for a reduction. We may now just feel too tired of typing the same request over and over to have responded to whatever post you are referring to above. I don't recall reading it.
FOR THE RECORD, I REQUEST THAT THE MAXIMUM BANISHMENT BE ONE MONTH.
Bay
Posted by BayLeaf on April 30, 2009, at 19:07:41
In reply to One Month Max, posted by BayLeaf on April 30, 2009, at 19:02:07
> 2) Is 1 month now the new black? (max?)
>>There weren't any replies when I asked for input, so no, nothing's changed.
>>Bob
It's this kind of behavior that causes people to want to call you insect names. It seems intended to provoke.
Why would you provoke vulnerable people?..people who could become upset, possibly act out, and be banished by you?
It's all very interesting.
Posted by verne on April 30, 2009, at 20:20:14
In reply to Dr Bob 2.0, posted by verne on April 30, 2009, at 18:18:33
Dr Bob is all about "power". He's sort of playing with it now but in the end it really comes back to him.
He pretends to give some of it away, causing even more confusion.
He tries to get down home and go gang, street, or whatever culture required.
Other times it's clinical and distant.
In the end, he's pulling the strings. I think most posters are starting to get that and no longer participate. Sure, many, never venture into adminstrative lands, but the majority knows.
Now PsychoBabble is a ghostland. No one ventures to say the least bit anything, the least bit chancy. Only Larry Hoover, like a steadfast soldier, a lighthouse, carries on.
Sorry to invoke your name Larry but you're all that keeps this site afloat. You know all that chemistry and basically everything else - and, I'm not being sarcastic.
No offense to you Dr Bob, but your feelings shouldn't come before the hundreds you've hurt.
Verne
Posted by alexandra_k on May 1, 2009, at 11:50:24
In reply to Re: an issue with insects, posted by Dr. Bob on April 30, 2009, at 9:27:02
> nothing's changed.
Thanks for clearing that up.
'What doesn't kill us makes us stronger'
I guess Bob's decided that its okay that Babble dies
I mean its been dying before his eyesPeople spoke with their feet
After they became too injured politely knocking
Then repeatedly bashing 'gainst the brick wall
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