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Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 21:17:46
In reply to Re: facing realities..., posted by Dr. Bob on February 26, 2009, at 11:03:34
Dr. Bob,
It is fine if you want to quote me, but please keep the entire sentence, to make sure my message is what was intended.
Thanks
> > My psychoanalyst ... has now suggested that my mental health would be better served by not participating here
> >
> > twinleaf
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> > my Pdoc really doesn't want me here.
> >
> > fayeroe
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> > my analyst doesn't give me advise either except to suggest that it might be best not to post here
> >
> > Zeba
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> > My therapist does not want me posting and participating here.
> >
> > pc
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> > My T is one who doesn't want me on here
> >
> > HappyChaiTea
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> > he told me to stay away from Babble
> >
> > Bay
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> So there's a subgroup of you who stay despite professional advice to leave.
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> > My psychoanalyst ... feels that the present Babble system ... replicates emotionally unfair and abusive families of origin too closely to be healthy.
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> > We don't really know anyone here as well as we think we do, and our hopes and desires may fill in the gaps too much, and thus set us up for rejection and disappointment.
> >
> > twinleaf
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> Maybe you stay because of hopes and desires you have.
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> > All of these blocks, while appropriate under the present guidelines, were the result of my standing up for a principle I believed in
>
> But maybe some hopes and desires are likely to be frustrated here. For example, because I might also stand up for a principle I believe in -- and I have more power here.
>
> You may find it less frustrating if you adjust your hopes and desires. I know that's easier said than done. And you may not even want to do that. And even if you do, you may not know in what direction to do so.
>
> > we can talk with I statements and all that,(the babble way)
> >
> > They can improve their communications skills.
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> Certainly one option, though it may not feel very exciting, is to work on improving I-statement skills.
>
> Bob
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 21:19:41
In reply to Re: What I wonder is... » HappyChaiTea, posted by fayeroe on February 27, 2009, at 21:16:03
>
> Dinah and 10derHeart are the only ones that I see.
>Thanks Pat,
Don't want to be blindsided or anything. lol
Posted by Sigismund on February 27, 2009, at 21:20:56
In reply to Re: glad to help, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 20:36:23
If Zazenducke had put J'accuse' in the subject line and 'My name is zazenducke' in the message, there would have been a block.
Not much slack cut for our feathered friend.
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 21:24:49
In reply to Re: glad to help » HappyChaiTea, posted by Sigismund on February 27, 2009, at 21:20:56
> If Zazenducke had put J'accuse' in the subject line and 'My name is zazenducke' in the message, there would have been a block.
>
> Not much slack cut for our feathered friend.Maybe it has something to do with giving someone
"THE BIRD"
LMAO
I feel for birdies, I do.
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 21:28:29
In reply to Re: glad to help » Sigismund, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 21:24:49
My cockatiel says, "Psycho" and "Oh, Sh*t, sh*t, sh*t.
I should block that bird of mine, she is so uncivil. lol
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 21:31:26
In reply to Re: glad to help, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 21:28:29
Posted by Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 21:34:48
In reply to Re: blocked for 52 weeks...so? » Dr. Bob, posted by fayeroe on February 27, 2009, at 9:36:31
> Am I correct in thinking that a person can come here and post and become a part of this community and they cannot say that their belief is that the deputies are inconsistent?
You are correct in thinking that a person can come here and post and become part of this community and they will be expected to follow site guidelines. Which include not posting anything that could lead other posters to feel accused or put down.
Deputies are posters.
If you wish to say that deputies are inconsistent, you may contact Dr. Bob at his email address. Just as if you wish to complain about a nondeputy poster, you can use the notification system.
These are site guidelines. These have been site guidelines since the notification system was put in place.
Site guidelines, in the past, have been enforced more loosely towards deputies, which may have given the impression that the rules did not apply to deputies. However, while enforcement may have been lax, the rules have always been in place.
Please do not say anything to or about a deputy that would be uncivil if it were said to or about a nondeputy poster.
Please send complaints about perceived deputy inconsistency, cruelty, or any other complaints about deputies directly to Dr. Bob.
This is consistent with the policy of notifying Administration about nondeputy posters.
Posted by Deputy Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 21:36:26
In reply to Site guidelines » fayeroe, posted by Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 21:34:48
The above post was made in my official capacity.
Dinah, acting as deputy to Dr. Bob
Posted by fayeroe on February 27, 2009, at 21:41:22
In reply to Site guidelines » fayeroe, posted by Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 21:34:48
Gotta shake up that paint.
Posted by Deputy Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 21:45:05
In reply to Re: glad to help » HappyChaiTea, posted by Sigismund on February 27, 2009, at 21:20:56
> If Zazenducke had put J'accuse' in the subject line and 'My name is zazenducke' in the message, there would have been a block.
From the FAQ:
Please don't post information that you know to be false, exaggerate or overgeneralize.
Dr. Bob is always free to override or adjust deputy decisions. His email is on the bottom of each page. Please feel free to email him if you believe this decision was made in error. If you choose to post anything on board about this decision, please do not post anything that could lead others, including posters who act as deputies, to feel accused or put down.
Dinah, acting as deputy to Dr. Bob
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 21:46:31
In reply to Re: Site guidelines, posted by fayeroe on February 27, 2009, at 21:41:22
So if you are uncivil towards him , do you get the same punishment as you do with being "uncivil" towards a deputy? Or is it triple the threat?
Posted by Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 21:50:48
In reply to What I wonder is..., posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 20:42:48
Racer is also a deputy.
I understand if you would prefer not to post to posters who volunteer their time to be deputies. But if you post civilly to deputies, as you would to any other poster, there should be no problem with posting to them in any capacity.
I understand why there might be anger about this, and I empathize. I'm pretty sure I'd be angry myself. In fact, I felt more understanding than anger at zazenducke's post. I consider myself a poster like any other, and all I ask is the same consideration that is granted to any poster under the civility guidelines.
Dinah
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 22:04:26
In reply to Re: What I wonder is... » HappyChaiTea, posted by Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 21:50:48
Sorry not worth the risk , because you can block me, and if I disagree with it and say ANYTHING , I get double the whammy of a block.
It doesn't matter if you volunteer or not, you have the power, most of us don't, how can that be a regular poster? You might think that you are, but now with the new rule, that power difference is even more than it was before.
Just disagreeing with you now, leaves me with a risk of being blocked for almost a year, what is YOUR risk?
Posted by Deputy Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 22:07:11
In reply to Re: Site guidelines, posted by fayeroe on February 27, 2009, at 21:41:22
> I'm going to get my rose colored paint out and get busy. I don't think there is anything like a good paint job to hide the doors to the closets where the skeletons are kept.
> Gotta shake up that paint.
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, for example of hiding doors to closets where skeletons are kept.
Dr. Bob is always free to override deputy decisions. His email is on the bottom of each page. Please feel free to email him if you believe this decision was made in error.
If you choose to post anything on board about this decision, please do not post anything that could lead others, including posters who act as deputies, to feel accused or put down.
Dinah, acting as deputy to Dr. Bob
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 22:17:38
In reply to Please be civil » fayeroe, posted by Deputy Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 22:07:11
Has Bob given you permission to talk to the vortex now?
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 22:20:39
In reply to Re: GHOSTS, posted by Dr. Bob on February 26, 2009, at 8:56:18
> I don't have much time right now, but I'm listening. I'm also wondering if I trigger some of you by being absent. Twinleaf mentioned emotionally unfair and abusive families of origin at the beginning of this thread.
>
> BobPlease don't flatter yourself. Geeze
Posted by Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 22:22:28
In reply to Re: What I wonder is... » Dinah, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 22:04:26
For the record, disagreeing is not necessarily uncivil. Respectful disagreement can be incredibly civil.
I'm sorry if you feel that that is the choice you need to make, but I understand.
As Dr. Bob says, posters who are also deputies have more power in some ways, but less power in others. Or as my therapist says, we have more authority, but not necessarily more power.
Every day I am a deputy, I risk losing friends because of it. I risk losing my place as a poster, no matter how hard I try to stay a poster. I risk anger. I risk feeling hurt. Sometimes I feel like I even risk my humanity in the eyes of others, although that may only be my perception.
Posted by Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 22:27:00
In reply to ?, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 22:17:38
People aren't vortices.
I explained earlier that vortex is like trigger. I'm sorry if my use of the phrase caused distress. To me it is a value neutral and totally detached term. But I see that for you it is not, and I am sorry if I hurt you. It never occurred to me that it was negative, in the sense I meant it certainly.
Posted by Sigismund on February 27, 2009, at 22:30:04
In reply to Please be civil » Sigismund, posted by Deputy Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 21:45:05
>If Zazenducke had put J'accuse' in the subject line and 'My name is zazenducke' in the message, there would have been a block.
Yes, Dinah, I was thinking about this as I was cutting the grass.
But I have to quibble.
That is an example of jumping to a conclusion.
Posted by Sigismund on February 27, 2009, at 22:32:06
In reply to Please be civil » fayeroe, posted by Deputy Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 22:07:11
>Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, for example of hiding doors to closets where skeletons are kept.
What kind of a sentence is that?
Posted by Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 22:32:18
In reply to Re: Please be civil » Deputy Dinah, posted by Sigismund on February 27, 2009, at 22:30:04
As long as you follow site guidelines.
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 22:32:54
In reply to i complain about the deputies, posted by zazenducke on February 26, 2009, at 21:40:22
> I believe the deputies are inconsistent, sometimes show favoritism and have on occasion been deliberately cruel while staying within the letter of the law
> but hey nobody's perfect
>
> So i stand a willing guinea piggie for your latest rule
>
> go ahead..make Dinah a Jessica-ban me for a long long time :)
>
> I believe the deputies are inconsistent, sometimes show favoritism and have on occasion been deliberately cruel while staying within the letter of the law
> but hey nobody's perfect
>
> So i stand a willing guinea piggie for your latest rule
>
> go ahead..make Dinah a Jessica-ban me for a long long time :)I would like to add Dr. Bob is a pig headed jerk who is afraid of hearing the truth about his own boards. Just block anyone willing to take a stand against the injustice that happens on these boards. Force everyone's silence. Reminds me of Hitler, actually.
Zadenduck spoke THE TRUTH!
I support her 100%
I don't care either if I get blocked a long time. These boards have become nothing but crap anyway.
As for quoting me out of context, f*ck you Bob!
As for not doing anything about my notifications, F*CK you BOB!
Posted by Sigismund on February 27, 2009, at 22:34:19
In reply to Re: Please be civil, posted by Sigismund on February 27, 2009, at 22:32:06
This is the thread started by Twinleaf called
'A New Beginning'.
Posted by Deputy Dinah on February 27, 2009, at 22:40:55
In reply to Re: i complain about the deputies » zazenducke, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 22:32:54
> > I believe the deputies are inconsistent, sometimes show favoritism and have on occasion been deliberately cruel while staying within the letter of the law
> Zadenduck spoke THE TRUTH!
Please don't post anything that could lead others, including deputies, to feel accused or put down.
Please don't quote or endorse statements that have been deemed to be uncivil.
You have recently been blocked, and there have been several reminders and much discussion on this thread regarding this issue, so I'm going to have to block you from posting.
I will ask Dr. Bob to set block length.
Followups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Dr. Bob is always free to override deputy decisions. His email is on the bottom of each page. Please feel free to email him if you believe this decision was made in error.
Dinah, acting as deputy to Dr. Bob
Posted by obsidian on February 27, 2009, at 22:45:26
In reply to ?, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 27, 2009, at 22:17:38
I think that was really uncalled for...so sarcastic and so unnecessary. I am going to regret giving a sh*t about this...and yes it is a freaking vortex!! If you look for the negative you shall surely find it.
For the love of god stop!
strike that...I'll stop reading this sh*t
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