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Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
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Posted by Happyflower on December 6, 2006, at 17:29:02
When Dr. Bob is asked what he prefers, dogs or cats, and he evades the question.
My conclusion is that he likes neither all that much because most animal lovers tend to not see that as a very personal question to answer, and will answer it easily or will say both. But evading the question makes me go hmmmmmmmm.
Or it could be he likes rats the best and like to do experiments on them and feel threatened by cats because they could eat his rats and ruin his experiment. And dogs can salivate when they see the cats running after the rats , which would mess up his experiment because of all the slimmy DNA all over the lab. Plus if the cat ate the rat and dog ate the cat who ate the rat, could have weird results in the lab because the rat was infested with people DNA, which cause the dog would start to show human signs like talking and asking personal questions when all he wants is to play with his rats.
Plus it might be uncivil to dog owners if he preferes cats, and vice versa.
So my conclusion is he is being smart by not answering the question, besides my conclusion is much more exciting, don't ya all think? :-)Okay, back to my boring paper on elderly perception due tommorrow. Yikes!
Posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 6, 2006, at 18:30:54
In reply to amateur T DX of Dr. Bob ;) (for fun), posted by Happyflower on December 6, 2006, at 17:29:02
My Dx of "Dr. Bob" is 'normal', but how would I know? Dx'ing Bob would require some kind of conversation, right?
High-functioning, highly intelligent individual has a soft spot for wounded humans. Career as a pdoc enables him to satisfy his scientific curiosity, his desire to help others and his need to earn a living.
A strong contradiction exists between his desire to be present, to show others his face, and make certain hobbies known to the public, in this case on the internet. His internet persona shows an interesting portrait of a somewhat quirky professional. Yet, for all his efforts to build a strong web presence, there is very little on his website or in his personal communications that betrays how he conceives of himself.
Aside from being analytical, civil, polite, and intelligent, we are left wondering about his motivations, his personality & temperament, his dreams, his drives, and his vulnerabilities.
In a sense, we can see Dr. Bob, and read what he says on psycho-babble. Indeed, even eat dinner sitting right next to the man, and never have a sense of what makes him do the things he does. He exists only in the present, as he never tells us stories of his past, or ambitions for his future.
One wonders whether his "self" is so cleanly divided between public professional and private person. One is left wondering what it is to "know" a person and yet not to know anything of his person. The philosopher wonders whether that is because there is nothing else to know?
Does the public professional Dr. Bob have access to the mind of Bob the regular guy, and vice-versa?
Dr. Bob, is your internet identity so calculated that if you were perfect we'd never see even the faintest glimpse of "regular guy Bob"?
Sometimes you remind me of ALICE.
I hope I haven't offended you. I like to try to figure people out- avocationally and occupationally. Plus, it's a survival instinct.
Speaking of "survival", my amygdala is not satisfied at all with my current perceptions/conceptions of Dr. Bob. Keeps on asking my neocortex for more information, but there's nothing there!
"Sorry amygdala[s], I can't tell you whether we should fear Dr. Bob or embrace him. I only know the rules of engagement [be civil!], and so long as our prefrontal is "in charge" we're gonna be just fine, barring some kind of unmedicated meltdown. I know that you get really anxious when we don't have better information. Usually lack of information is our cue to become hypervigilant. Try to hold on, though. Let's assume that Dr. Bob is neutral-- benign, until we have indication otherwise."
Sorry Happyflower. I've got no ideas for you. Back to work on your paper! :)
-Ll
Posted by Happyflower on December 8, 2006, at 2:39:36
In reply to Re: amateur T DX of Dr. Bob ;) (for fun) » Happyflower, posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 6, 2006, at 18:30:54
Hey Llurpsie,
Didn't we just say the same thing? LOL
Take care,
Happy
Posted by zazenduckie on December 8, 2006, at 8:30:11
In reply to Re: amateur T DX of Dr. Bob ;) (for fun) » LlurpsieBlossom, posted by Happyflower on December 8, 2006, at 2:39:36
Posted by Happyflower on December 12, 2006, at 13:22:56
In reply to amateur T DX of Dr. Bob ;) (for fun), posted by Happyflower on December 6, 2006, at 17:29:02
I was just trying to tease you a bit for some fun, and I am sorry it turned into a ugly thread. :(
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 13, 2006, at 2:38:50
In reply to Sorry Dr. Bob, posted by Happyflower on December 12, 2006, at 13:22:56
Posted by zazenduckie on December 16, 2006, at 12:34:24
In reply to Sorry Dr. Bob, posted by Happyflower on December 12, 2006, at 13:22:56
> I was just trying to tease you a bit for some fun, and I am sorry it turned into a ugly thread. :(
I didn't see anything in the replies Llurpsie and I posted that were ugly :(
How would you feel if someone posted that a thread you contributed to "turned into an ugly thread"?
Bob has some interesting suggestions re communicating you might like to read
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061202/msgs/713542.htmlHave a happy day :)
Posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 16, 2006, at 20:53:46
In reply to :-( » Happyflower, posted by zazenduckie on December 16, 2006, at 12:34:24
Well, I guess I wouldn't be comfortable telling my friend what I thought about him in the words that I used to describe Dr. Bob.
It didn't really pass my own friendliness test.
Sorry Dr. Bob. you gotta lot to deal with.
Lurps
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 17, 2006, at 2:45:56
In reply to :-( » Happyflower, posted by zazenduckie on December 16, 2006, at 12:34:24
> How would you feel if someone posted that a thread you contributed to "turned into an ugly thread"?
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> Bob has some interesting suggestions re communicating you might like to readPlease don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down. If you'd like to help us enforce the policies here, please use the "notify administrators" button on that page.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#help-enforce
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceYou might want to consider asking another poster to be your "civility buddy" and to preview your posts before you submit them.
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 17, 2006, at 2:47:29
In reply to Re: :-( » zazenduckie, posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 16, 2006, at 20:53:46
Posted by zazenduckie on December 17, 2006, at 8:44:04
In reply to Re: please be civil » zazenduckie, posted by Dr. Bob on December 17, 2006, at 2:45:56
> > How would you feel if someone posted that a thread you contributed to "turned into an ugly thread"?
Rephrase in I words:
I felt accused and put down when someone posted that a thread I had contributed to "turned into an ugly thread".
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> Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down. If you'd like to help us enforce the policies here , please use the "notify administrators" button on that page.Oh I AM confused now. I thought you wanted posters to help each other. Could you explain how that would be an accusation or a putdown? I thought you recently posted about that! Please clarify!
Posted by zazenduckie on December 17, 2006, at 8:51:44
In reply to Re: :-( » zazenduckie, posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 16, 2006, at 20:53:46
> Well, I guess I wouldn't be comfortable telling my friend what I thought about him in the words that I used to describe Dr. Bob.
Maybe you're right. I never thought of Dr Bob as a friend so I wasn't using that standard. Although my friends wouldn't be offended I don't think.
I thought ugly was an unusually strong word to describe the thread. I'm glad you wern't offended.
Maybe I am too oversensitive.
Posted by zazenduckie on December 17, 2006, at 9:12:12
In reply to Rephrase and request for clarification » Dr. Bob, posted by zazenduckie on December 17, 2006, at 8:44:04
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>Oh I AM confused now. I thought you wanted posters to help each other. I thought you recently posted about that!
Could you explain how to help other posters without causing them to feel accused and putdown?
I don't use the notify the administrator button because I don't want to cause someone else to be blocked. I guess in that sense I don't want to enforce the policies here. So maybe I should have limited myself to feeling words about my reaction without any suggestions for alternative expressions. But thanks for your suggestions.
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Posted by muffled on December 17, 2006, at 11:13:05
In reply to Re: please be civil » zazenduckie, posted by Dr. Bob on December 17, 2006, at 2:45:56
> > How would you feel if someone posted that a thread you contributed to "turned into an ugly thread"?
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*Well multiple pbc is MUCH better than blocks. It gives us a chance to learn.
So I too need to understand this.
Is it the 'how would you feel' part that causes the prob?
I would not have caught that at all.
This very subtle stuff...
Sigh.
But what people need to know mebbe, is that pbc does not mean next one is a block. So they don't need to panic. And also that there is not meant to be shame, but we are trying to learn how to phrase things better. So if pbc's can be better explained, then we ALL can learn. Cuz I have a hard time understanding also.
Muffled
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 17, 2006, at 14:43:09
In reply to Thanks for your thoughts » LlurpsieBlossom, posted by zazenduckie on December 17, 2006, at 8:51:44
> I thought ugly was an unusually strong word to describe the thread.
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused. If you'd like to help us enforce the policies here, please use the "notify administrators" button on that page.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#help-enforce
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceYou might want to consider asking another poster to be your "civility buddy" and to preview your posts before you submit them.
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
PS: According to the current system:
previous block: 1 week
period of time since previous block: 1 week
uncivil toward a particular individual or group: yes
particularly uncivil: no
different type of incivility: no
clearly didn't understand PBC and made effort to reply: no
provoked: no
uncivil in multiple posts at same time: no
already archived: noIf we take 1 week, divide by 10, and round, that's a reduction of 0 weeks. If we apply that to your previous block, that's 1 - 0 = 1 week. And if we triple that, that's 3 weeks.
Posted by muffled on December 17, 2006, at 14:48:01
In reply to Re: blocked for 3 weeks » zazenduckie, posted by Dr. Bob on December 17, 2006, at 14:43:09
and really really dumb.
I just don't understand whats going on here.
I truly don't.
:(
I getting scared.
Muffled
Posted by sunnydays on December 17, 2006, at 19:38:43
In reply to I am sad and confused » Dr. Bob, posted by muffled on December 17, 2006, at 14:48:01
> and really really dumb.
> I just don't understand whats going on here.
> I truly don't.
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> I getting scared.
> Muffled((((muffled))))
Take care of yourself. You're so nice, I don't like seeing you hurting. Stay away from admin if you can.
sunnydays
Posted by Declan on December 19, 2006, at 13:54:10
In reply to Re: I am sad and confused, posted by sunnydays on December 17, 2006, at 19:38:43
I know what's going on here. This bit.
Posted by Gabbi~G~ on December 22, 2006, at 14:49:49
In reply to Re: I am sad and confused, posted by Declan on December 19, 2006, at 13:54:10
Dr.Bob? I once described an email as nasty, and got blocked for 9 weeks, is nasty so different from "ugly"
When I was asked to rephrase something I'd posted about anothers beliefs I replaced the word "derogatorily" with "strongly" and got a thank you from you.
Happyflour not trying to get you blocked, not at all, I don't think I should have been blocked.
I'm just trying to..
Oh what am I trying to do..???
I really haven't the faintest idea.
Posted by zazenduckie on January 13, 2007, at 15:08:17
In reply to I am sad and confused » Dr. Bob, posted by muffled on December 17, 2006, at 14:48:01
> I just don't understand whats going on here.
me neither but that's life I guess. thanks for making me feel a little less crazy though.sorry I never got back to you about the mutton chasing dog declan. i think about you when i hear the voice of TS Eliot on my tapes from the library. May God forgive me if necessary.
Posted by gabbi-2 on January 13, 2007, at 22:08:47
In reply to thanks muffie decclan sunnydays gabbi, posted by zazenduckie on January 13, 2007, at 15:08:17
Posted by zazenduckie on January 23, 2007, at 11:53:55
In reply to Re: blocked for 3 weeks » zazenduckie, posted by Dr. Bob on December 17, 2006, at 14:43:09
Dr Bob I didn't and don't understand this block. I attempted to clarify. I attempted to rephrase. I believe that I fulfilled the requirements for that on the special conditions.
Also according to the block I was "uncivil" apparently towards an adjective describing a thread not an individual or group so I would appreciate an explanation of this consideration also.
I've often disagreed with you but have tried very hard to do so under the guidelines you put in place.
I believe the board would profit if posters who are blocked understand why and are given a chance to rephrase.
I don't dislike you or think you are a bad person. I am sincere in my wish to repect your posting guidelines. I would like to understand them.
Thanks.
> > I thought ugly was an unusually strong word to describe the thread.
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> Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused. If you'd like to help us enforce the policies here, please use the "notify administrators" button on that page.
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> But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
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> If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#help-enforce
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforce
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> You might want to consider asking another poster to be your "civility buddy" and to preview your posts before you submit them.
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> Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
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> Thanks,
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> Bob
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> PS: According to the current system:
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> previous block: 1 week
> period of time since previous block: 1 week
> uncivil toward a particular individual or group: yes
> particularly uncivil: no
> different type of incivility: no
> clearly didn't understand PBC and made effort to reply: no
> provoked: no
> uncivil in multiple posts at same time: no
> already archived: no
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> If we take 1 week, divide by 10, and round, that's a reduction of 0 weeks. If we apply that to your previous block, that's 1 - 0 = 1 week. And if we triple that, that's 3 weeks.
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 23, 2007, at 23:53:58
In reply to Please explain and help me rephrase » Dr. Bob, posted by zazenduckie on January 23, 2007, at 11:53:55
> > > I thought ugly was an unusually strong word to describe the thread.
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> Dr Bob I didn't and don't understand this block.Thanks for working on this. It would've been more of an I-statement to say something like:
> > > I don't think the thread is ugly.
And if you didn't think it was something that should've been said, it would've been better to use the button instead of posting.
Bob
Posted by zazenduckie on January 24, 2007, at 9:19:53
In reply to Re: Please explain and help me rephrase, posted by Dr. Bob on January 23, 2007, at 23:53:58
with good intentions!
I was trying to be conciliatory by moderating my disagreement. Live and learn.
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> And if you didn't think it was something that should've been said, it would've been better to use the button instead of posting.
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> BobThat's not an option for me at this point because I think the block lengths and the policy of exponential increases have the potential to cause more harm than anything that is posted. I find myself facing a nine week block next time because I was trying to disagree more gently. I would never contribute to that happening to another poster. The Golden Rule and all that....even in the faq if I'm not mistaken :)
Thanks for your help.
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