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Posted by Liligoth on November 12, 2003, at 18:58:34
I think that because it is possible for someone to create a hotmail or yahoo etc email account on the fly, then come here & join up, it is too easy for trolls to come in & be cruel & disruptive. Maybe a provision for those joining with a free email account requiring them to send some ID before being allowed to post might help?
Posted by memma on November 12, 2003, at 19:12:33
In reply to Suggestion: no auto join for free email accounts, posted by Liligoth on November 12, 2003, at 18:58:34
Posted by Susan J on November 12, 2003, at 19:32:23
In reply to Suggestion: no auto join for free email accounts, posted by Liligoth on November 12, 2003, at 18:58:34
I agree, too, although I'm on a free e-mail account here....
Would there be a way to keep my name, Susan J, yet change my e-mail address if that rule is imposed?
Posted by Liligoth on November 12, 2003, at 21:22:31
In reply to Re: Suggestion: no auto join for free email accounts » Liligoth, posted by Susan J on November 12, 2003, at 19:32:23
> I agree, too, although I'm on a free e-mail account here....
>
> Would there be a way to keep my name, Susan J, yet change my e-mail address if that rule is imposed?hi Susan, I dont know. Im just making a suggestion about new people joining. I dont think it should apply retrospectively. I think it would make people take being part of the board a little more seriously if their identity was known to DrBob
Posted by justyourlaugh on November 13, 2003, at 9:22:51
In reply to Re: Suggestion: no auto join for free email accounts » Susan J, posted by Liligoth on November 12, 2003, at 21:22:31
i stumbled on to the medication board many moons ago...i feel so educated..far more in control of my body and mind because of these boards..
i would not have joined if i knew it was not annonomious(i cant even say that,let alone spell it)i would still be in the dark..
alot of people are ashamed,,,in deniel,,scared,,alone..
this board needs to be open and public..
thankyou dr bob..
thankyou every one who posts..
thankyou for creating a safer world for the mentally ill..
j
Posted by shar on November 13, 2003, at 16:21:18
In reply to Re: Suggestion: no auto join for free email accounts » Liligoth, posted by Susan J on November 12, 2003, at 19:32:23
Hi, Susan,
Good to see you still here. Glad you posted on PB Admin since I avoid PSB like the plague.Your point is well taken. Tho' it's too long for me to remember, I believe I signed up here with a yahoo account...more for security reasons than anything else. But, it's a good point...maybe we ought to be willing to 'commit' ourselves to the extent that we give our home email addys.
It might make trolls and disrupters think twice.
Shar
Posted by Liligoth on November 13, 2003, at 17:42:28
In reply to Re: Suggestion: no auto join for free email accounts » Susan J, posted by shar on November 13, 2003, at 16:21:18
> Hi, Susan,
> Good to see you still here. Glad you posted on PB Admin since I avoid PSB like the plague.
>
> Your point is well taken. Tho' it's too long for me to remember, I believe I signed up here with a yahoo account...more for security reasons than anything else. But, it's a good point...maybe we ought to be willing to 'commit' ourselves to the extent that we give our home email addys.
>
> It might make trolls and disrupters think twice.
>
> Shar
I signed up here with a Yahoo account too. I am always concerned with my anonymity online also
Posted by NikkiT2 on November 13, 2003, at 17:47:42
In reply to Re: Suggestion: no auto join for free email accounts » Susan J, posted by shar on November 13, 2003, at 16:21:18
That simply don'thave any other email addy than a free one??
Theres alot fo reasons I use the free mail oout there.. Outlook, for me, is not security concious enough, and Hotmail / Yahoo gives me the security I want.
I can access them where I ever I am, anywhere in the world.
I've sued hotmail for about 8 or 9 years now, and am happy with it. Why change something that I'm happy with?I own my own domain, and so have an email address @mysurname.com, but this simply forwards into my hotmail account.
I'm really starting to seriously consider giving this place up entirely. First theres the idea that we can pay, but that rules me out as I have no credit card. Then we say now free email addies, and that rules me out again.
Most ISP's give you 6+ email addresses, that you can change as and when you want, so I can't see that making someone register with that is going to prevent multiple / anon registering. Or is only one person from each ISP going to be allowed to register??
What about those that don't have access at home and use libraries or internet cafe's??
Maybe we could make a rule that only people that donate atleast $1000 to PB be allowed to register??
Or maybe only those that have won a Nobel peace prize.*shrugs*
Posted by Dinah on November 13, 2003, at 17:57:04
In reply to What about those, posted by NikkiT2 on November 13, 2003, at 17:47:42
Believe me, I understand the desire to make it difficult or expensive for people to reregister over and over when blocked or sign up under another name if they want to say something inflammatory without taking the resulting heat.
But I also see the other side. I know a lot of people have to use public computers.
That's why I sort of like this idea. The idea is that in lieu of an email address linked to your ISP, you could contact Dr. Bob for other means of approval. However, I fear that the additional administrative time this would require on Dr. Bob's part would far outweigh the reduced administrative time in monitoring the board.
Posted by Dinah on November 13, 2003, at 18:09:20
In reply to Re: Suggestion: no auto join for free email accounts » Susan J, posted by shar on November 13, 2003, at 16:21:18
> Hi, Susan,
> Good to see you still here. Glad you posted on PB Admin since I avoid PSB like the plague.
>But is there any particular reason why? One that you can share I guess. I miss you on Social. I miss so many people.
Posted by stjames on November 13, 2003, at 18:19:36
In reply to Re: I know this is none of my business » shar, posted by Dinah on November 13, 2003, at 18:09:20
> > Hi, Susan,
> > Good to see you still here. Glad you posted on PB Admin since I avoid PSB like the plague.
> >
>
> But is there any particular reason why?For me, I find people play games there. So I avoid.
Posted by NikkiT2 on November 13, 2003, at 18:21:06
In reply to Re: What about those » NikkiT2, posted by Dinah on November 13, 2003, at 17:57:04
But how on earth, from the UK, could I prove to Dr Bob, via email, that I am who I say I am??
My anonimity isn't an issue for me. The email address I signed up with is myownname@yahoo.com, but who here could possibly know if that is my real name?? I've used my real name here from day one, but only I know that its truly my real name for sure.
I could come up with lots of ideas that would work for US only... But can't think of any that would work world wide.
Nikki
Posted by Dinah on November 13, 2003, at 18:24:40
In reply to Re: What about those » Dinah, posted by NikkiT2 on November 13, 2003, at 18:21:06
But I also think the administrative time involved would sink the whole idea anyway.
Posted by Dinah on November 13, 2003, at 18:33:58
In reply to Re: I know this is none of my business, posted by stjames on November 13, 2003, at 18:19:36
>
> For me, I find people play games there. So I avoid.More so than on Admin? :) I guess that's why I was surprised. Most people who feel they need to avoid a board avoid Admin.
I'm guessing there are people who like to play games wherever they find themselves. And people who rarely play games. Wouldn't be more effective to decide who you want to interact with, rather than where you want to interact?
Posted by Dinah on November 13, 2003, at 18:34:49
In reply to Re: I know this is none of my business, posted by stjames on November 13, 2003, at 18:19:36
Posted by stjames on November 13, 2003, at 18:45:46
In reply to Re: I know this is none of my business, posted by Dinah on November 13, 2003, at 18:33:58
>
> >
> > For me, I find people play games there. So I avoid.
>
> More so than on Admin? :) I guess that's why I was surprised. Most people who feel they need to avoid a board avoid Admin.People avoid admin for other reasons, I think.
>
> I'm guessing there are people who like to play games wherever they find themselves. And people who rarely play games. Wouldn't be more effective to decide who you want to interact with, rather than where you want to interact?
>For me, I find social an accident happening all the time. So I avoid.
Posted by Dinah on November 13, 2003, at 19:02:41
In reply to Re: I know this is none of my business, posted by stjames on November 13, 2003, at 18:45:46
I'll give thought to what you said.
Posted by Tabitha on November 13, 2003, at 19:07:02
In reply to Re: I know this is none of my business, posted by stjames on November 13, 2003, at 18:45:46
I enjoy reading both of your posts when you do pop in. Social's not for everyone. IMO it's bound to be the messiest board, since there's no unifying topic for us to stick to. You get the most unadulterated, er, people-ness there.
Posted by Dinah on November 13, 2003, at 19:14:46
In reply to Re: To shar and stjames, posted by Tabitha on November 13, 2003, at 19:07:02
Tabitha, I must be the densest person alive. I've always thought Social was fairly innocuous. I tend to find more hurly burly on the Meds board. People do get excited about their medications.
If you ever have the time/inclination, could you email me and try to explain in monosyllabic words I might understand?
The only thing I mind about Social is the turnover. I miss so many people, and the silliness we used to have with word games and fruit fun. I tend to be so earnest myself that I think of those as the good old days. But I also enjoy each new group of Babblers and enjoy getting to know people. I find it endlessly fascinating.
I guess I don't think of it as messy. I think of it more as what's not to like?
Posted by tabitha on November 13, 2003, at 19:38:33
In reply to Re: To shar and stjames » Tabitha, posted by Dinah on November 13, 2003, at 19:14:46
Posted by stjames on November 13, 2003, at 19:43:19
In reply to Re: To shar and stjames, posted by Tabitha on November 13, 2003, at 19:07:02
> I enjoy reading both of your posts when you do pop in. Social's not for everyone. IMO it's bound to be the messiest board, since there's no unifying topic for us to stick to. You get the most unadulterated, er, people-ness there.
Totally. My comments are not ment as a crit.
With no topic at hand and given that the people
there are mentally ill it tends to be very dynamic.If I want to chat, 2000 is a safe, trusted place for me. All my friends know about my illness
so I prefer real life support.
Posted by Liligoth on November 13, 2003, at 22:28:04
In reply to What about those, posted by NikkiT2 on November 13, 2003, at 17:47:42
hi Nikki, I never for a minute meant those with free email adds wouldnt be allowed to join. I was thinking of ways of stopping people opening accounts simply to make trouble. I thought that if people with those accounts had to wait a day or so & get approval from DrBob it would stop the impulse joiners who blow in & straight out again after causing havoc. Im just trying to think of how to make it better so people like you & the other long time people who, to me, are the 'spine' of the social board dont leave in exasperation.
Posted by justyourlaugh on November 13, 2003, at 23:03:04
In reply to Re: What about those » NikkiT2, posted by Liligoth on November 13, 2003, at 22:28:04
dont let a few bad apples spoil the pot..
i want everyone ..
anyone here..
we take good
and bad..
this is our site..this is everyones site..
i forgive myself from being ill..
i have messed up a time or two here..
i will not be apart of a "private...self proving club"
j
Posted by Elle2021 on November 14, 2003, at 0:30:38
In reply to Re: What about those, posted by justyourlaugh on November 13, 2003, at 23:03:04
> dont let a few bad apples spoil the pot..
> i want everyone ..
> anyone here..
> we take good
> and bad..
> this is our site..this is everyones site..
> i forgive myself from being ill..
> i have messed up a time or two here..
> i will not be apart of a "private...self proving club"
> jI totally agree and couldn't have said it better myself! :) Elle
Posted by Susan J on November 14, 2003, at 8:54:28
In reply to Re: What about those, posted by justyourlaugh on November 13, 2003, at 23:03:04
Hi, JYL,
> dont let a few bad apples spoil the pot..
> i want everyone ..
> anyone here..
> we take good
> and bad..
> this is our site..this is everyones site..
> i forgive myself from being ill..
> i have messed up a time or two here..
> i will not be apart of a "private...self proving club"
> j<<That is so true! I don't like the idea of exclusivity either, but I do think that there has to be a minimal level of ethical behavior imposed on the boards. I just personally find myself struggling with certain behavior that actually does emotional damage to me, here. And I guess I think it hurts others sometimes too. I don't know how to reconcile the fact these are supportive boards with the fact that there is certain inflamatory behavior here that I think hurts others. (And yes, I know this means I should stay away, and I have been staying away a bit. But I miss the supportive aspect of the boards).
But I also know that we are all imperfect here and seeking help, support, education, and personal growth. This board has brought out both the best in me and the worst in me. I'm sure others are annoyed by both sides of me, and yet *I* don't want to be banned for life. So who's to say *who* can partipate here or not? Dr. Bob....
And has he addressed P's posting of Kirsten's suicide at all? Is he looking into it? Is he seeing if it's from the same ISP address as KrissyP/Gal, or whatever? I do think Dr. Bob should have some comment on this situation...
Personally, *that* would make me feel a bit better about the situation....
Susan
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