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Posted by manowar on January 31, 2002, at 13:02:20
Hi,
Provigil is expensive! I'm waiting for my insurance co. to approve it for me so that I only have to pay the copay of $50 (as opposed to paying $170 a mo!). Thank God, I just got my Adrafinil from England the other day! My question: If I normally take 200 mg a day of Modafinil (I just changed insurance cos) what is the equivalance in Adrafinil?Thanks for your help,
Tim
Posted by IsoM on January 31, 2002, at 14:39:52
In reply to 200 mg Modafinil a day= ? of Adrafinil??????, posted by manowar on January 31, 2002, at 13:02:20
Tim, am I correct in thinking that the dosage of modafinil is 100 - 200 mg per day (100 mg tablets)? Does that mean you're taking the maximum dose then? If that's correct, then you'd probably need to take 4 tablets (300 mg) of adrafinil per day, 2 tablets in morning, 2 at lunch or early afternoon.
On the other hand, adrafinil may affect you a little differently, as it forms 2 active metabolites, one being modafinil. I only take 1 1/2 tablets per day & it's fine for me.
Posted by manowar on January 31, 2002, at 20:12:43
In reply to Hazarding a Guess » manowar, posted by IsoM on January 31, 2002, at 14:39:52
Hello again and thanks for your response,
I've taken the Adrafinil before, and I was taking two 300 mg twice a day. When I told my doctor that I thought the Adrafinil was helping me, he prescribed the Provigil. His script was for one 200 mg tablet in the morning. I only began taking the drug a month ago, so I would think that my doc would have started me out on a low dose. I have no idea what the therapeutic range of dosing is for Modafinil for deep limbic/inattentive ADD & cyclothymia, but with the 200 mg a day, I feel great!
I also take:
Wellbutrin-300 mg a day
Klonipin- 1.5 mg a day for Cyclothymia
Clonidine- 2 mg a day to augment the Klonipin
(I just added the Clonidine to the mix last month and it’s wonderful!)
When an extra brain boost is needed in the morning, I take a 54 mg Concerta.Over the last couple of days, I’ve taken two 300 mg of Adrafinil twice a day, and I feel fine. (Probably overkill, but what the hell!)
Hopefully, my insurance will approve the Provigil tomorrow, so no biggie…--Tim
> Tim, am I correct in thinking that the dosage of modafinil is 100 - 200 mg per day (100 mg tablets)? Does that mean you're taking the maximum dose then? If that's correct, then you'd probably need to take 4 tablets (300 mg) of adrafinil per day, 2 tablets in morning, 2 at lunch or early afternoon.
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> On the other hand, adrafinil may affect you a little differently, as it forms 2 active metabolites, one being modafinil. I only take 1 1/2 tablets per day & it's fine for me.
Posted by IsoM on February 1, 2002, at 1:39:58
In reply to Re: Hazarding a Guess, posted by manowar on January 31, 2002, at 20:12:43
Hey Tim, now that you've had a while to know how it feels on Provigil, I'd love to ask some questions, if you don't mind.
1. With adrafinil, I find it also gives a real antidepressant boost. Feel much more chipper & happy. Do you find that with the Provigil too?
2. My memory is much better. Same with Provigil for you?
3. I feel more calm & relaxed with adrafinil, very even natured. How about Provigil with you?
Glad to know all is going well with you too!
Posted by manowar on February 1, 2002, at 20:34:33
In reply to Modafinil and Adrafinil » manowar, posted by IsoM on February 1, 2002, at 1:39:58
> Hey Tim, now that you've had a while to know how it feels on Provigil, I'd love to ask some questions, if you don't mind.
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> 1. With adrafinil, I find it also gives a real antidepressant boost. Feel much more chipper & happy. Do you find that with the Provigil too?
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> 2. My memory is much better. Same with Provigil for you?
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> 3. I feel more calm & relaxed with adrafinil, very even natured. How about Provigil with you?
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> Glad to know all is going well with you too!> Hey Tim, now that you've had a while to know how it feels on Provigil, I'd love to ask some questions, if you don't mind.
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> 1. With adrafinil, I find it also gives a real antidepressant boost. Feel much more chipper & happy. Do you find that with the Provigil too?
>
> 2. My memory is much better. Same with Provigil for you?
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> 3. I feel more calm & relaxed with adrafinil, very even natured. How about Provigil with you?
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> Glad to know all is going well with you too!Hi,
Yes, Yes and Yes again!
It is such a wonderful drug! One of the best benefits is that I'm more social than I've ever been in my life. I love to engage in conversation, and I think the people I talk with really enjoy talking to me, because I'm much more articulate, my memory is unreal, and at the same time, I enjoy the give and take of a conversation without trying to dominate it.
I am also able to shift attention very well, and I've gotten very well organized.
Since Christmas Eve, I’ve been happy most of the time. Now, I was taking the Adrafinil for a couple weeks prior to Christmas, so I definitely think that drug was working fine. I saw my pdoc (he’s a pediatrician that specializes in ADD with children and adults) on December 31. When I told him that I was taking the Adrafinil and I thought it was helping me and that I was interested in Modafinil one of the metabolites of Adrafinil, he didn’t know what the Modafinil was! Once I mentioned that it was a drug indicated for Narcolepsy, he immediately said “Oh yeah, Provigil.” I guess he is used to using the brand name. Anyway, get this: He told me that he was so impressed with the drug for people with Inattentive/Deep Limbic ADD that he decided to buy stock in the company that manufactures the Provigil! (Cephalon?) I hope he makes a mint. He readily agreed that I try the Provigil, and he told me not to take it with the Adrafinil.
My new insurance company is still balking at giving me coverage for the drug, so now I’m taking Adrafinil. I’ve decided to cut back to 600 mg a day, because at 1200 mg a day it would cost me just as much as Provigil without insurance!
Quite frankly, the two drugs seem identical for me. I get a little cottonmouth using either drug, but that’s the only negative side effect. (Actually, it could be considered a positive side effect, because I need to drink more water anyway.)
Here is a list of the positive side effects from Adrafinil/Provigil (some may have to do with the other drugs in my mix):
Increased libido
Increased drive
Increased memory (big time)
Increased confidence (big time)
Love social situations (love to tell jokes and stories)
Calm and Relaxed (If I feel like taking a nap—no problem)
Sleep/Wake Cycle is perfect (This also has to do with the Wellbutrin, Klonipin and the Clonidine and occasionally-- Concerta 54 mg)
Appetite is restored
I’m generally happy, but in a relaxed way—not hypomanic at allRight now, I’m a very lucky guy.
--Tim
Posted by IsoM on February 1, 2002, at 21:34:21
In reply to Re: Modafinil and Adrafinil » IsoM, posted by manowar on February 1, 2002, at 20:34:33
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