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Posted by yoshimi on November 9, 2004, at 0:05:27
In reply to Re: And have I stopped beating my wife? » yoshimi, posted by Dinah on November 8, 2004, at 23:55:47
I do understand what you mean.
We differ there in that I prefer when groups police each other. Im in a number of communities in my life where we keep the others *civil* by calling people on their stuff and by group leadership instead of one individual being in charge. I prefer that. Its more by consensus if you will. And it works out fabulously.But I do understand what you mean. ANd i understand why you feel the way you do.
I do want to say though, there may be a time when you think somethign may be uncivil and he might not or vice versa. And that is ok and Babble could still be a safe place. Because sometimes people who think alike still disagree on things.
I know thats happened before so Im not tryint to be patronizing (i think thats how you use that word), I just dont want you to feel badly if you and Dr Bob or anyoen else disagree on something.
My parents and I disagree on quite a few things most of which are huge big deals, but i still love them and they still love me. (Even if they do think im a pinko commie liberal treehugger hehe).
Yoshimi
Posted by Dinah on November 9, 2004, at 0:13:11
In reply to Re: And have I stopped beating my wife? » Dinah, posted by yoshimi on November 9, 2004, at 0:05:27
Posted by SLS on November 9, 2004, at 0:19:12
In reply to Re: And have I stopped beating my wife? » yoshimi, posted by Dinah on November 8, 2004, at 23:55:47
Politics and Religion. It's almost inevitable.
I find that many people enter a completely different mode of thought and behavior when discussing these two subjects. I hope we can all forgive each other our modes.
- Scott
Posted by Dinah on November 9, 2004, at 0:22:49
In reply to Gosh., posted by SLS on November 9, 2004, at 0:19:12
Well, I can. And gladly. But sadly, I think this is my nonreligious, nonpolitical mode as well. :) (Or maybe everything is religious and political in one way or another to me?)
Posted by Sad Panda on November 9, 2004, at 0:31:29
In reply to Gosh., posted by SLS on November 9, 2004, at 0:19:12
> Politics and Religion. It's almost inevitable.
>
> I find that many people enter a completely different mode of thought and behavior when discussing these two subjects. I hope we can all forgive each other our modes.
>
>
> - Scott
>
>Hi Scott,
Religion & Politics are the most popular reasons for people to kill each other, so I guess it's no surprise.
How is Cymbalta going?
Cheers,
Paul.
Posted by TofuEmmy on November 9, 2004, at 0:34:31
In reply to Gosh., posted by SLS on November 9, 2004, at 0:19:12
> Politics and Religion. It's almost inevitable.
>It's particularly difficult when so many of our new "leaders" seem to combine the two....the are actually Politigious.
emmy
Posted by SLS on November 9, 2004, at 0:35:45
In reply to Re: Gosh. » SLS, posted by Dinah on November 9, 2004, at 0:22:49
> Well, I can. And gladly. But sadly, I think this is my nonreligious, nonpolitical mode as well. :) (Or maybe everything is religious and political in one way or another to me?)
I am not surprised that I should have thought of you immediately upon writing that as a good example of someone who has not changed modes. I am happy that you should have recognized this as well. It makes me feel smart that I should have such good judgment. :-) I wish I were as centered as you are. Thanks for sticking around and continuing to engage in this thread. It needed you.
With Love and Respect,
Scott
- Scott
Posted by gardenergirl on November 9, 2004, at 0:37:13
In reply to Do others now see?, posted by Dinah on November 8, 2004, at 20:15:48
Certainly not funny this time....yikes!
gg
Posted by SLS on November 9, 2004, at 1:02:01
In reply to Re: Gosh. » SLS, posted by Sad Panda on November 9, 2004, at 0:31:29
> > Politics and Religion. It's almost inevitable.
> >
> > I find that many people enter a completely different mode of thought and behavior when discussing these two subjects. I hope we can all forgive each other our modes.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
> >
> >
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> Religion & Politics are the most popular reasons for people to kill each other, so I guess it's no surprise.
>
> How is Cymbalta going?It's not. Thanks for asking. Cymbalta is not exerting any kind of true antidepressant effect. Maybe I should start a new thread on PB.
- Scott
Posted by gardenergirl on November 9, 2004, at 1:06:49
In reply to Re: And have I stopped beating my wife? » yoshimi, posted by Dinah on November 8, 2004, at 23:27:13
Dinah,
Thanks again for your kind words. I was a bit weirded out by this thread before, and then I came back and saw where it went, and Holy Cannoli!Runaway! Runaway! Runaway!
Clop,clop Clop,clop Clop,clop...
Take care and catch ya on other boards,
gg
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 9, 2004, at 2:31:40
In reply to It's a huge mistake... » Sad Panda, posted by mair on November 8, 2004, at 22:04:29
> I have great difficulty with the concept that people whos political leanings are pro-war also have feelings that are easily hurt with mere words.
>
> Sad Panda> the sanctimony of the Christian Right
>
> mairPlease don't post anything that could lead others to feel put down. I've asked you to be civil before, so now I'm going to block you from posting for a week.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 9, 2004, at 2:32:57
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, you consider this thread civil? » gardenergirl, posted by Dinah on November 8, 2004, at 15:39:17
> I almost never get too angry about things until Dr. Bob gives them a tacit seal of approval. And I just couldn't understand why this got that tacit seal.
Oops, I think I went through too quickly and thought "higher intelligence" and "holier" balanced each other out. Sorry!
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 9, 2004, at 2:33:01
In reply to Another board?, posted by gardenergirl on November 8, 2004, at 13:24:30
> The horse is out of the barn, so to speak, but perhaps this points to the need for another board?
I was thinking it could stay on Social...
Bob
Posted by saw on November 9, 2004, at 2:59:46
In reply to Re: Another board?, posted by Dr. Bob on November 9, 2004, at 2:33:01
Social is my home. I cry there, I laugh there. I don't like to see the political upheaval and sadness it causes there.
I think a current affairs board is a wonderful idea. But then a grievance board was also recently suggested. Is there a limit to the amount of practicable boards we can have?
Sabrina
Posted by AuntieMel on November 9, 2004, at 10:07:26
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, you consider this thread civil? » AuntieMel, posted by Dinah on November 8, 2004, at 15:47:57
I was not talking about you when I was talking about good losers and gracious winners.
I was talking about the general political atmosphere, where the attacking continues long after the election. Both "sides" are at fault, with one faction declaring that the other was 'uninformed' and the other one declaring that they now have a 'mandate' and so on, and so on forever.
And the implication that 'if you don't agree with me you must be a moron (traitor, child molestor, etc, etc)' bothers me. Even if, for argument's sake that were true, constantly declaring it is counterproductive. It's time to move on.
I do have to admit that (as a social liberal) I am really worried about the Supreme Court. I am afraid that he will use the court as a way to pay back the far right fringes that helped put him in. But - hey - accidents happen. I was worried about Souter and he worked out to be wonderfully apolitical.
But anyway, I was talking about the general atmosphere, and certainly not you. From you I haven't seen even a hint of a gloat.
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 10, 2004, at 9:37:10
In reply to Current Affairs Board » Dr. Bob, posted by saw on November 9, 2004, at 2:59:46
> Social is my home. I cry there, I laugh there. I don't like to see the political upheaval and sadness it causes there.
Hmm, that's a good point...
> Is there a limit to the amount of practicable boards we can have?
Only one way to find out! :-)
Bob
Posted by sunny10 on November 10, 2004, at 9:37:15
In reply to Re: sportsmanship » Dinah, posted by AuntieMel on November 9, 2004, at 10:07:26
I just read through this entire thread and NOWHERE did it even come CLOSE to suggesting that the direction of this country did not start with Bush, Clinton, OR Reagan....As soon as Herbert Hoover left office, the conglomerates and the elite rich WON the government...
Why does anyone think it matters WHO the elitists' political puppet is, anyway???!!!
My personal opinion is that the entire world has put too much emphasis on this year's election. Have we all forgotten the arguments over the last one? And the one before that?
Please, Dinah, try not to take any of it so personally. I really do think that the gentlemen were TRYING to be humorous throughout.
-sunny10
Posted by AuntieMel on November 15, 2004, at 10:31:54
In reply to Re: Current Affairs Board, posted by Dr. Bob on November 10, 2004, at 9:37:10
I like that idea. I would probably participate there, especially if the discussions remained of the 'academic' type and don't get personal.
Posted by alexandra_k on November 18, 2004, at 2:24:40
In reply to Re: Current Affairs Board » Dr. Bob, posted by AuntieMel on November 15, 2004, at 10:31:54
I think a current affairs board would be a good idea. It would be nice to keep social more social and friendly and less controversial. Surely a current affairs board wouldn't be much harder to moderate than a faith board???
Posted by AuntieMel on November 18, 2004, at 8:57:45
In reply to Re: Current Affairs Board, posted by alexandra_k on November 18, 2004, at 2:24:40
maybe even easier. there *is* a snowball's chance that people that like to talk about current affairs would try find common ground. <grin>
Posted by Jai Narayan on November 18, 2004, at 15:23:08
In reply to Re: Current Affairs Board » alexandra_k, posted by AuntieMel on November 18, 2004, at 8:57:45
Can we get down and dirty?
or must we be ever so kind?
Go for the throat
or just have a tea party?
Jai
Posted by Cass on November 18, 2004, at 20:01:40
In reply to Re: Current Affairs Board, posted by Jai Narayan on November 18, 2004, at 15:23:08
I would love a current affairs board especially to post interesting websites and funny jokes which may stretch the boundaries of civility but are not malicious. I hesitate to post some things on Social if they contain profane words or poke fun at a political view. Perhaps a current affairs board would have more room for that sort of thing?
Posted by AuntieMel on November 19, 2004, at 10:36:30
In reply to Re: Current Affairs Board, posted by Cass on November 18, 2004, at 20:01:40
I, too, would love to discuss these things without the having to tiptoe on eggshells.
On the other hand, I feel like the entire country would benefit if we (it has to start somewhere, right???) also work on finding common ground and discuss the differences in rational, non-emotional ways.
So - in my opinion it would be great if the top of the page DIDN't say for "mutual support" but instead emphasized what we stand *for* and not *against*.
For what it's worth.
Posted by Jai Narayan on November 19, 2004, at 16:27:18
In reply to Jai and Cass, posted by AuntieMel on November 19, 2004, at 10:36:30
Posted by AuntieMel on November 19, 2004, at 16:55:43
In reply to okay...Auntie Mel...if I must...hee,hee :) (nm), posted by Jai Narayan on November 19, 2004, at 16:27:18
Wouldn't it be funny - a mental health board becoming an example on how to discuss religion and politice.
Stranger things have happened.
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