Posted by Mathia on September 18, 2007, at 0:58:42
In reply to Re: Not popular beliefs..., posted by Deus_Abscondis on September 8, 2007, at 3:00:37
> Medhed,
>
> I'm tempted to say the only bad addiction is an unsatisfied addiction.
>
> To qualify this: an addiction becomes problematic when:-
>
> - it causes dysfunction in the life of the user
>
> and
>
> - the user cannot cope with or stop the dysfunction as a matter of choice
>
> and
>
> - the addiction has adverse and unacceptable impacts on health and welfare
>
> and
>
> - the addiction is antisocial in that it has
> adverse health or welfare effects
> or the potential to create adverse health effects in others (this means that USE may need to be private or restricted)
>
> Some people who are unaware that they have a latent addiction to a substance function better
> when using the substance in a responsible and
> sustainable manner. I believe this is called a
> pseudo-addiction.
>
> It is being discovered that some people are genetically predisposed to favor the use or
> abuse of substances. This may be due to an abnormal reward mechanism in the brain.
>
> Rather than treating these people to some form
> of abstinence program, which could be viewed
> as a form of mis-treatment, it is being realised
> that controlled use of the substance brings
> their brains closer to normal and improves
> the persons life and function in the community.
>
> It is also being discovered that some illnesses
> can bring about irreversible changes to reward
> and pain systems and that a justifiable
> medical treatment might include the use of
> medicines that were one available but have stopped
> being used for political rather than scientific/medical reasons.
>
> DAmen to that D
I think its alot about money. If the pharmacuetical co.'s can start new drug after new drug (that are all the same mostly) and charge hundreds of dollars and then the insurance companies pay for it, everyone from the doctor to the pharma. co all win. I noticed when my family doctor suggested effexor for my depression, because "hes had alot of success with it", I was looking and he had an effexor pen, tablet, and on the way out briefly looked in his office and noticed a nice effexor calender. Not to mention, the dinners, club seats, vacations, etc, they give out for "pushing" these drugs.
I eventually tried wellbutrin, and I love the way they say "we dont know how they work they just do", and once your on it for 3 months try and stop and its a definite withdraw in itself. Also, liver tests, every few months to make sure its not effecting your liver. (like when they find out it is, oh well your liver has been damaged, were gonna stop this one now LOL its a joke)
How about some trying some good old cheap codeine, and actually have something that is rather safe and really makes me feel better in 20 -30 minutes instead of possibly 6-8 weeks and then rarely helps. Thats another thing, you finally drag yourself to a psychiatrist after getting enough energy to get off the floor and tell them how depressed you are and they give you something that will work in 6 weeks. Then if that one doesnt work "there's plenty of others we can try", another 4-6 weeks, etc, etc, etc, 6 months go by and no relief. Its seriously wrong and someone should do something about it because, the majority of psychiatrists, psychotherapist, therapist, that Ive dealt with have lived a pretty darn good life and have no idea about depression except what they've read in college. Its time for change.
poster:Mathia
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