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Posted by alexandra_k on April 16, 2022, at 18:46:40

nz will extradite someone to china -- apparently because it believes that he won't get a fair trial in china. therefore they will extradite him to stand trial in china...

but nz will not extradite someone to the usa to stand trial.

nope.

the courts will put the latter person to 'work', in nz, documenting how they will not extradite him to stand trial. rather, they will make him pay the courts here, pay the courts here, pay the courts here, pay the courts here, pay the courts here.

it is a new piece of incriminating behavior, on their behalf, that they willingly did extradite to china when they believed he would not receive a fair trial.

of course, i don't think that china is anywhere near as bad as what the nz government would have us believe. i suspect that it is likely to benefit the people of the solomon islands more to contract with china than it would be likely to benefit the people of the solomon islands to wait for help from australia and nz.

it is hard for the nz people to undersetand china because of the language barrier. it is hard to ignore that china has invested in having the people of china leaern english whereas english speaking nations have not invested in that at all. did not think that that was a good invetment or part of a fair trade (e.g., when so many chinese studnets come here to learn english so they can do business etc. we refused to invest in any going to china to learn chinese so they can do business etc).

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there is a problem.

the chair of the university of auckland was involved in research around them collecting data on children who had been abused. not sure if it was that they were abused in state care, or if they allege they were being abused by their family to justify putting them into state care...

the idea was to identify the children who were being abused... so they could justify putting them into state care...

to help them. that was the idea.

i'm not entirely sure what his input was. but the input was that he was a philosophy ethics person. so his being involved in the project was intended to convey the idea that they had a person with background and knowledge and training in ethics on board with the project.

but, of course, there are documented cases of them falsely accusing people of abusing their kids. i mean, in one case, they later claimed it to be a case of 'mistaken identity' where one persons history was wrongly associated with her name. but that justified them taking her kids. there are cases like that. and they just go 'oops our bad, nothing we are going to do about it, you can't do anything about it' once these things are made public.

anyway... i remember he applied for government funding to do research for years and years and years and years and nothing... nothing...

and he wasn't made professor for years and years and years and years and years... and... nothing.

then, i suppose what happened, out of the blue, one day, was the 'opportunity' presented itself that he could be part of this research project as the ethics person and the project was around data collection or whatever that the government intended to use to get on with the business of hte prsent or current stolen generation.

so then he gets government research grants and he gets made professor. on the understanding that that, now, is the... racket... i suppose you call it... that he is tied up in.

you sort of go... how is that philosophy?

i guess that's what people would say about the way the philosophy of biology stuff was going, too... that it was in danger of not really being philosophy anymore.

i never thought of it as political before. that it could be viewed as a slavery manifesto or whatever. i mean... one persons modus tollens is another persons modus ponens. the information can be used to bring about an end that is desired or to prevent an end that is not desired.

one could use the information to try and grow and develop a workforce. or one could use the information to try nad prevent and prohibit the development of a workforce out of preference to force people to be slaves or bonded servants with no genuine opportunity to pay off the bond and accumulate or grow independently or whatever...

one isn't responsible for hte use to which others put the information.

like the atomic bomb.

only...

i suppose the documentation of how oneself uses the information. whether oneself uses the information to grow something or to destroy something.

grow something early.. to destroy it later.. i don't know.

i guess it does come back to the curriculum. what you teach them. whether you choose to cut them off from the field or to induct them into it. help them communicate with others in the field or cut them off from communicating with others.

they take the academic curriculum out of the universities. the 'universities'. full the university level courses with... youtube videos and modern writing which is more magazine or newspaper than formal and that is con-munications writing rather than people engaging in debate with their peers.

there was this thing about how academics work should aim to be accessible to the general educated reader. or the rule of 3rds. 1/3 accessible to general people. people assumed to be intelligent and listening etc. then the next third understandable by graduate studnets. then the last 3rd accessible to specialists.

we don't really allow our academics to converse with specialists. i suppose. we don't train the students to converse with specialists.

everything has to be written in code to get through or by the government anyway. or manifestly helping the government neo-nazi agenda, by the seems of it.

write something they think they can use...

so... i write about delusion. and about how to 'undo' the effects of gaslighting, i suppose. which they will interpret to be a gaslighting manifesto as to how to induce delusion in people for the governments ends. of people being consented to be voluntarily detained under the mental health act against their will. in spite of or despite all the evidence that the person wants to leave.

i mean... what do you have to do so that the people understand that the government gets or takes or keeps all of the money while providing few to no social services.

you pay the government you pay the government you pay the government you pay you pay you pay you pay you pay you never stop paying...

them so as to better enable them to arrange for the torture and abuse and wrongful death of as many of the people as it can get away with.

it's sooooooooooo competitive in this part of the world: social darwinism. they think life is a game of survival of the fitttest or elimination of the unsuccessful (they eliminate themselves, you see). and they try and organise or arranage for only one kind of banana (so to speak) so that there can be an environmental shift or change in global circumstances so as to lead to the annihiliation of us all.

intentinoally forcing a brittle and vulnerable state so as to better end up with a bunch of vacated land, i suppose. terra nullus or whatever it is called when there aren't any people there.

 

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