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mandates for police and military unlawful -- court

Posted by alexandra_k on February 28, 2022, at 12:26:26

The court ruled that it was not lawful (was not justified) to fire / let go / make redundant (I don't know how they did that, actually) police and military for not being vaccinated... Once? Twice? Three times? Whenever the government says because the government says it... I'm not sure which of those.

Anyway, the court ruled it was not lawful to fire military and police for not being 'up to date' with their Covid vaccination.

Self-preservation, I suppose.

The court likely does not want to be a target for disgruntled police or military with too much time on their hands.

I would suppose.

I would imagine.

Of course that was only the High Court of somewhere. You can be sure the government will invest thousands upon thousands upon thousands of taxpayers dollars to appeal the decision.

I would suppose.

It is only police and military.

The court ruled.

It is perfectly fine for everybody else to be let go.

It is just that the court (and the government) needs all the military and police they can get and keep on their payroll, right now.

I would imagine.

I would suppose.

The gangs...

The gangs appear to have turned.

Parliament did not seem concerned, to start with, about protestors outside parliament.

They thought they could disperse them by setting the sprinklers on them and flooding them out and by seeding a few rowdy people to be a bit brawly from within. That would scare away the reputable ones. It wouldn't be a protest populated by teachers and nurses and doctors and the like, anymore. Them and their kids. They would fear for their kids safety. They would fear for their kids health. With the police and military not letting vehicles in to maintain the portaloos etc.

Only...

That's not what happened.

There was some sort of organised... Security. From within the protest. S

And there were fairly clearly gang people who turned up to move the concrete blocks in the night...

And for the most part the lack of gang people there has been quite notable..

Like with the 'black lives matter' protests, in NZ. You saw black power and mongrel mob patched gang members walking alongside the people of New Zealand. Behaving themselves. I mean, not intimidating or threatening the public. Not the more or the most hardened of them, perhaps... But certainly patched representatives...

Somethign something about 501s coming back and shaking things up. Bringing guns. There has been an increase in gun crime. A police person was shot. That's fairly novel / new for New Zealand. That element or aspect of the people getting pissed off with the government and the police and the military...

The military have been notably absent.

They are on quarantine duty, apparently.

So they are wrapping up the quarantines.

Yeah right lol. Why would the government let the people go? It quite likes it's unlawful detention facilities.

The forced compliance. Forced compliance. Forced compliance. Forced compliance. The government knows what is best for you. Forced compliance is what is best for you. Imagine if everybody did what they though was best!! Lol. We are too busy 'workforce planning' what people are going to die of in the near future and rolling in the troops and frontline workers to ensure it happens.

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The courts really are non-functional.

The UN / the world saw it with the failure to deliver timely justice with the Lake Alice proceedings. The psychiatrist who was on payroll while the courts and the government sent children into his care so that he could sexually and physically abuse him. They knew that was what he was doing and they hid evidence and covered up. They chose to spend thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars denying the obvious. Denying the evidence. Destroying the evidence. Lying.

And they are still at it... All over the show.

They would not get with the programme on prosecuting and putting an end to the paid tutoring services that were cheating. The US showed the world how it was done. How you do something (are seen to be doing something about, are seen to be caring about, are doing something to at least try and restore or keep some semblance of faith in education).

Presently we are refusing to prosecute or rule against or bring into line or end the pay for the answers tutoring services provided by Crimson Academy, particularly, but also other tutoring providers (including individual students) particularly when it comes to Medicine.

Crimson Academy doesn't try and help people understand the content or whatever. It tries to be pay to win. Or, you pay me money and maybe I'll choose to help you... But you better comply with what I say -- right? Because money is necessary but not sufficient. There's still all the forced compliance stuff. I still get to throw my weight around and make me feel big and make you feel powerless. Right?

Apparently the courts ground to a halt because of Covid. Which is stupid, right. Because they put a stop / halt to new jury trials because of the risk of jurors in an open court. But then that should have actually freed up a bunch of courts time to make genuine or legitimate progress on civil cases. Where things can proceed or progress through AVL. Streamed. Recorded for posterity. So the people from overseas can watch the hearing and read the filings and see for themselves that NZ does not have functioning courts.

Most business ground to a halt because of Covid. So what was the Covid workload, really?

The incapacity / inability / unwillingness of the courts to progress cases was displayed for all the world to see.

Like the ethics seminars at Otago were streamed to Wellington-Wells.

I imagine people could see them from overseas. The blatant display of psychopathy completely unrestrained. For all the world to see... Talks about how the laws were going to be altered, in NZ, because they wanted to do experimental research on elderly people with dementia who did not have the capacity to provide informed consent. So they were going to have the laws changed so that consent was implied or taken for granted or assumed.

I said that if they were going to do that then they should at least allow people to make an advanced directive to the effect that they were voluntarily saying (with capacity) that they did not consent to being experimented on, if it were ever ruled that they lacked the capacity to give consent.

They did not like that idea. They had no plans to allow anybody at all to opt out of being a non-voluntary participant in their experimental research.

Mine was the only objection / concern / reservation expressed in an entire room full of ethicists on pay-roll.

I guess that's why they don't pay me.

And why we don't have medicine. law. education. Anything, anything, anything at all. Not upholding the NATO objectives.

))))))

The first lot of planes that were shot out of the sky by Ukranian air-defence...

Did those planes land (were they at the time of being shot down) on Ukranian territory -- or were the planes (at the time of being shot down) on other territory -- but people from Ukrane got nervous and... Sometimes the best defence is perceived to be an offence.

Because... If they shot them down outside Ukranian territory then I think that makes Ukrane the aggressor on Soviet troops.

And then the Soviets say they wanted to secure the Chernobyl site from looters etc within Ukrane.

I guess that's the thing about war...

People are sleep deprived and scared. Trigger happy because if you pause too long you are dead. So making wrong judgment calls.

It is possible that trauma... Fear... Etc...

Well... That these things prevent Ukranians from being united in NATO objectives...

And also make Ukrane difficult from Russia's perspective, as well...

Hard to know what is to be done.

Get the hell out, I suppose.

There's nothing for me here, I get that message loud and clear.

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My statement of claim had, like 4 sentances. Really simple sentences.

The courts ordered case conference after case conference. Refiling after refiling.

I did start protesting and objecting really loudly that they were treating me as slave. I mean, they don't pay me. They don't pay me. They don't pay me for mey time. My filings . My attending court. etc.

Then they bill me in the costs judgmetn. I'm supposed to pay the courts for their wasting my time.

They could have dealt with the first claim by interlocutory. Really swiftly. Done.

But they refused to do that. That was about requiring the University to supply an application to enrol form to every person who wanted one (they are a public university).

They won't do it. They think they can hide applications from people (not tell people and then open up applications for a 1 month window. Or not allow people to hit 'submit' on their application if they say they are Maaori,,, Or they think they can just do whatever they want whenever they want because they want.

And the courts wont' do anything.

Except one tiny little thing in favor of the military and police. One minior little tiny teeny concession.

I wonder how bullied etc the people are who choose not to get vaccine within the military and police.

I wonder if that is likely to have those people feeling kindly towards the courts.

Just f*ck*ng garbage land.

 

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