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family of 16

Posted by alexandra_k on August 23, 2021, at 16:35:11

In reply to not good enough.., posted by alexandra_k on August 23, 2021, at 2:23:19

So i didn't quite realise that 20 years ago Trump announced that 20 years later the US troops would be withdrawn from Afghanistan.

That is to say... There has been fair warning. Time for planning. Time for people to have planned their getting out.

Apparently a 'family' of 16 just arrived. A few of them had visas and booked places in quarantine that were subsequently cancelled because NZ has been cancelling legitimate bookings.

But the US / Australian troops let them onto the plane to NZ and here they are.

The pilots or whatever chose to fly the plane with unauthorised people from Afghanastan on board...

After Judith Collins pronounced the Taliban a 'death cult'.

Seems legit. Huh.. Seems...


So the quarantine breach in Auckland has something to do with a particular hotel where they arranged for an exercise yard to be bordering on an indoor public area... So members of the public are unknowingly walking very close to a quarantine facility. Members of the public are also in a shared lobby space when arrivals have just arrived.

You know... When they have got off their long flight... Haven't brushed their teeth... Have got the same old same old face mask on... They get off the bus from the airport...

They are likely crackign the sides of the mask for relativey fresh air. I would imagine. I would imagine that's the brief opportunity they have for fresh air. Thanks very much.


Apparently we didn't have fit for purpose quarantine facilities.

We couldn't get staff to staff the facilities if we put them out in the country.

We weren't able to train a military to staff a quarantine facility if we put them (the quarantine facility) out by a military camp, even...

For the military chefs... And cleaners... And so on... They couldn't run a quarantine facility.

It's not about the money. They are going to pay someone more than $100,000 per year to move to Wellington and take up a job where they troll the internet for Covid Misinformation and, I don't know... Feed the trolls the NZ government party line while having small group meeting after small group meeting after small group meeting about the freely smoking freely strategy for combatting Covid Misinformation that involves feeding the trolls all day...

That's a good choosing. I wonder how much they pay the person who thought that was a good job for the government to be offering?

I wonder which particular person the person who thought that was a good job for the government to be offering has in mind for that particular job?

Someone to fit right on in with the small group, hand-picked again. Maybe their kid? Maybe their kids summer internship? You know how it is... Some kids work in supermarkets giving nasal swabs. Teh real.. Brains of them all... Need to move to Wellington to trawl the internet and feed the trolls.

Good choosing!!! Good deciding!!!


Apparently training radiologists were giving swabs.

Yeah right.

I don't think NZL has radiology anymore. They got sick of waiting for the DHB's to software update their MRI machines.

NZL DHB's refused to invest in the equipment that would allow them to do their job. You know, in the developed world.

So now we have various... Physiotherapists. Giving people ultrasounds.

That's the state of our radiology.


I got a radiology report from Australia...

I don't think I've had one from NZL.

I did get an MRI scan via ACC.. But (to the best of my knowledge) it was never accompanied by a radiology report.

I was curious because I thought the imaging might have showed whether the hardware (a screw) was cracked BEFORE the surgeon tried to remove it. Whether that was something that a radiologist could have described in a radiology report. If they knew the scan was done for the purposes of assessing hardware removal pre-op.

But a radiology report was never written. And it wasn't something the surgeon mentioned beforehand. He didn't mention any possibility at all about the hardware breaking as he attempted to remove it. Which would lmean that a sharp edge of metal would be forever present inside me.

Which would of, of course, impacted on my decision as to whether or not to let him try and remove it.

Why did he even order the MRI?

How are they even allowed to do them when they aren't accompanied by radiology reports?

What is the utility in that?


I think i read somewhere tha the Royal Australiasian College of Radiologists isn't training radiologists in nZL anymore.

That means there isn't radiology in NZ anymore.

Because part of your job is training the next generation. But we don't have lisenced trained people working here. They cannot function in NZL.

They got sick of writing up all the f*ck*ng things the DHB's refused to do such that they couldn't do their job. They couldn't do their job. They couldn't do their job.

So they left. To do their job.

I mean.. How many f*ck*ng times do ya gotta say???



My niece, actually... Did a.. I think they are calling it a Degree...
I think she did do a Degree... A Degree programme.

Medical Imaging.

So she was trained to position people for the scanners. X-ray primarily. I do believe.

And she's it. I mean to say... Upskilling her... Is NZL's way of passing itself off as having radiologists. I think..

She's doing some... Pay the University money and eventually you will be paid more money for workign the MRI's... She's doing that this year.

I don't know whwether she's done ultrasound...

They had some physiotherapist teaching that at Otago...

She (my niece) was also doing angio imaging... Because I remember her saying about how she was on call... But she would only be called if xxx consultant was called in. But he would never take the call... Because he had young family at home.. So she didn't need to worry about needing to be in in 20 minutes because she knew he wouldn't be in in 20 minutes so...

That's for... Blood clots. I think. ANgio guided imaging surgeries.

Seems legit. Right?


Hey... Hey thanks for letting me help, New Zealand.

I KNOW the stuff isn't coming out of the autoclave clean. I KNOW.
How do I know???

Because we have high rates of Hospital Associated Infections and that's a likely point...

But we want for things to be better - right?
We want for things to develop - right?

We want to have a health system here -- right?

Or do our leaders just want to take as much money out of NZL and buy themselves everything they need from overseas??

The later obviously and clearly.

Because they aren't interested in anything being better.


The pathologists will be all like...

It's hard to read the slides properly when people don't do x and y in their collection and when z isn't done during preparation and when h and j and k happens with their storage..

And listening to that... And seeing what can be done.. Will contribute to making things better -- right?

But nonononoonononononononoon we aren't interested in developing.

We aren't interested in training a workforce. Child exploitation only. Then pop out a child and then child exploitation only...

The how low can we go for how long can we prevent and prohibit development plan.


They likely do pass my niece off as a radiologist in the hospital.

I would suppose.

Actually she's moved into the private system (exclusively) already.

I suppose she's established herself as someone who keeps her head down. Her mouth shut. Which is the primary objective in the take what you can for as long sa you can situation that is NZL...

I only know because... Family.

But It's part of why I feel wary about being closer to Family.


Other neice... Nurse on the general ward. They were trainig her to do ICU nursing.

They were reluctant to train her.. To train anyone. Because it's more pay. Teh prospect of more pay. Once she'd trained that means she can put her name down for overtime or whatever... She's perceived as a threat to them.

The ideal of having a rare and valuable skill... Has led to people in NZL trying to limit everything to a small inbred group who kepe themselves small at all costs... If it was about protecting the... Quality. Or whatever. Sure. I get it. But it seems to be about p rotecting the... Degenerates. More than anything else.

Preventing and prohibiting quality from ever developing at all.

HOlding everything back.




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