Posted by yxibow on September 29, 2009, at 1:34:59 [reposted on September 29, 2009, at 8:24:32 | original URL]
In reply to Re: Regarding PBC on Sarah Palin, posted by Sigismund on September 27, 2009, at 23:38:29
> Mental illness counts as a gift in a culture of cruelty.
I cannot parse that exactly, but if you're saying the world always has its own cruelty then whatever ails us makes us unique and different... well you're entitled for this belief if I follow...
My loosely veiled reference to Palin in the previous context which somehow was interpreted as being uncivil........(I'm getting really tired on this site of having to tiptoe around everything... I could go on about how cruel that this
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforce
aspect of the site is the most egomaniacal and dangerous to the well-being of people who have heart-wrenching illnesses)....
...as I risk saying my feelings about that very part of the site as being uncivil, which is not my intention, but merely to point out what some people have already been told by their therapists that there is a danger in this place....
... at any rate off that tangent, my point was that after 8 years of 24/7 hell and disaster, I do not consider it a gift to me in ANY fashion.As for people with Down Syndrome and other mental handicaps --- I went to elementary school with two people with Down Syndrome who were born to the same parents, before testing for debilitating genetic disorders were really accurate.
The two of them interacted with our grades in the same manner though there were necessities to keep the rage which does accompany the condition away from people at times as they were older and stronger due to their difficulties.
I respected them and I do respect people with mental handicaps.
What I don't respect, and people can be free to argue on the religion board or wherever appropriate, are people who knowingly have amniocentesis or other tests of successful pregnancy and still bring someone with severe chromosomal difficulties to face this "cruel world".
I think those who knowingly chose so, are cruel themselves.
But there is a slippery slope of the possibility of eugenics of other parts of humanity that do not affect one's faculties in any particular way and so I am not branding every situation in this manner.I say this because I am already in this world, I am intelligent, I am homosexual, I am a vegetarian, etc... in other words, I'm describing things that as I say, a slippery slope would also be cruel. (This world does not need the likes of the Nazis and Dr. Mengele.)
Some ramblings to ponder, I hope people do not take it as uncivil... if one's religion or philosophy still believes in the contrary, well, that is up to themselves.
I just cannot fathom 22 years of my mental illness as any sort of gift. That I have enough intelligence to examine it and be able to deal with aspects of it, that is a gift. But I do not mean to be intelligentist either.
-- tidings.
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