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Re: Just a thought and a change of subject too » Susan47

Posted by alexandra_k on May 31, 2005, at 18:50:43 [reposted on June 2, 2005, at 5:50:41 | original URL]

In reply to Re: Just a thought and a change of subject too » alexandra_k, posted by Susan47 on May 31, 2005, at 17:25:25

>we have to also concede that we would never know for certain that the sciences were complete ..

The final / completed science is when every physical event / process / thing is perfectly predicted (and hence explained because explanation is like a retrospective prediction) via laws of nature.

We will probably never get there...
But it is thought to be an abstract characterisation of what we are working towards...

>we'd have to concede that we may never know everything there is to know. Is that what you're saying?

But even once the final science is in. Even once we can predict and explain all the physical facts there are still non-physical facts remaining.

'Why is there something that it is like to be me?'
(it is a fact that there is something that it is like to be me)
'Why did my consciousness arise from this particular body?'
(it is a fact that my consciousness is associated with this body)

> you'd rather be that mirror image than the conscious one?

Yup. I'd rather be my non-conscious counterpart than conscious me.

I wouldn't consider it a sacrifice.

I didn't ask to be conscious...
I didn't ask to be associated with this body...

 

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