Posted by LostBoyinNC1 on June 26, 2002, at 0:20:08
In reply to Re: why is it WW3?, posted by mist on June 25, 2002, at 23:54:21
> As I stated above I called it a "war" because the tone of some posts on the subject remind me of grenades and because it tends to generate more heated debate than any other issue here. I was referring to the posts of more than one poster over the two years I've posted here.
Well, frankly I do see it as a war of sorts. Why? Because a lot of severely mentally ill people are slipping thru the cracks and not achieving remission. Many severely mentally ill people are not able to get out of it even with existing psychiatric treatments. Many are disabled. I personally believe much of this is due to shoddy methods of diagnosis and drugs and treatments which dont work as good as they are advertised. I personally believe that more people could be SAVED from a life of misery and disability if our society thought of mental illness as a regular physical medical problem...no different than say, alzheimers disease or parkinsons.
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> > First of all Id like to say to you that your depression cant be too awful bad if you dont take meds.
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> Please don't tell tell me how bad my depression is or isn't. People can be very depressed without taking meds. This is the problem I have with some of the arguments I hear. Telling others what their experience is when you haven't lived their life. You know nothing about me but the few details I've posted here. I am actually not as depressed currently as I was last year when I had major depression and my number one fear was, yes, homelessness.
Well, all I know is without meds I would have been dead a long time ago. I dont know how a person dxed with "major depression" could even function without meds. How do you hold a job untreated? I dont understand that.>
> > Psychiatry is low tech...its crude, subjective and based on psychology.
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> If this is how you feel I hope you won't have to see anymore psychiatrists or psychologists, only neurologists and that science in this area will advance the way you'd like it to.No...unfortunately Neurology is a long, long way from absorbing the duties of treating the mentally ill. I wish it was the other way. I believe more severely mentally ill could be helped were their diagnosis and treatment more respectable, scientific and Neurology-like and less mental health field "psycho-shit talk" like.
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> Do what works for you and makes sense to you, and allow others to do the same without discounting their reality and trashing their beliefs.Im not doing it to discount your beliefs. Im doing it because many severe forms of mental illnes are not as treatable as psychiatry would like us to believe. Many severely mentally ill slip thru the cracks of life and are leading half assed, marginal lives. You cant fix people with severe brain diseases with psychology ideas and a few crude drugs and crude low tech methods of diagnosis.
Severe mental illness is extremely complicated and is above the heads of most psychiatrists. Most psychiatrists dont even really know whats medically wrong with their patients. Thats cause there are no tests...nothing. How can you diagnose serious brain based conditions with no medical tests?
Its ridiculous and the whole thing needs to be handed over to Neurology.
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