Posted by omega man on June 16, 2002, at 18:19:05
In reply to Re: Obsessive thoughts - wasting my life » omega man, posted by automatedlady on June 16, 2002, at 7:02:40
makes absolute sense..if you did'nt experience happiness differently each time it happened you would be in a deep psychosis..
>By the way, can you explain a bit more about that "crystallisation of the hierarchy" thing...?
Its just a point about life processes in groups..whether human or whatever..the growing up time/age you seem to indicate is when it happens that the sexual hormones (i've no evidence of this) taper off and the result if the loss of fluidity...
whatever even if i'm wrong about the biology the observations made in group behaviors are clear..the growing up period is usually the end of the support and giving and the time when your place and value become pretty evident..hopefuly you get to grips with it and find some way to be happy within it or see a way that you can...
Depression in primate studies showed that when younger adult monkeys made moves, challenges according to their instincts and depending on the outcome ..lets say got beaten (whether fitness or creative luck) and are observed to not make further moves..and for the more experienced monkeys who did the beating down..they don't need to keep repeating that process..
Like a natrual order..but this is where it gets fascinating to me...drugs..hidden strategies..method acting..are all things humans can do and so it gets much more complex...but the natural order does seem very similiar say trying to work your way through a corporate environment..or be seen as the most desriable female...
One of the key things here is the defining of goals...some of us get more focussed than others ...you seem very focussed..so when you lose the fall is harder than for those of us with a wider vague manner...but a great thing to have within you is the ability to have a more moment to moment approach at a deeper level...which is something you find in religous practise from the east..
What i'm trying to say is that you have to say to yourself..are these pressures you put on yourself really worth it ..where did they come from....will you really be happy..even if you are..is the losing risk worth it...I don't know your life..so I can't say an "opinion" as to whether you exist in a place thats sending you signals that exist purely for no deeper purpose than basic needs or distraction, but if they exist as coping mechanisms they may be redundant for the "you" that is now.
On a deep level its all the same ..everywhere at all levels opposites exist within this galaxy...they get blurred at sub-atomic levels...but i'm going of track...whats really vital is to get rid of the Dross thats coming at you without throwing the baby out or submitting yourself to the will of some individual or closed group who says they have the answer...
is'nt this a question of free will ? and thats why I write because if your brain state is unstable or not up to it..youre in a vulnerable position.... I know too well the nonsense that exists within certain classes and groups and government structures in britain....and how it just creates problems..social dead ends and goals that really should feel optional and not the pressure you describe.
I found this place is the best on the web for getting a real reality check.
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