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Re: ...lies, dammed lies, and statistics...

Posted by dj on March 13, 2001, at 0:27:44

In reply to Re: ...lies, dammed lies, and statistics..., posted by pat123 on March 12, 2001, at 15:53:31

> > It is really sad that you say this and indicates the goods you peddle are not of >quality. Try any drug monograph or the NIMH.
If you bothered to carefully read the info. I posted from highly creditable sources it is far more thoughtful than you have been here and much more careful in its distinctions and questioning of the so-called facts. Just because it does not proclaim the truth as you believe it to be, does not mean that it is incorrect or perhaps closer to reality than what you chose to perceive it as...which is once again not to say that anti-depressants don't work, just to note that their effects may be far less than they are proclaimed to be in the an age where research for medications is often driven and interpreted by marketing and sales imperatives more often than real genuine, innovation.

The weekend cover story in the NY Times (as well as other recent similar stories there)carefully outlines how the marketing and sales imperative out weighed the effectivness of Claritin (in this example) for clients in the drive to promote it and make it # 1, in its marketplace despite the fact that there are more effective such medications out there... The same doubtless applies in the anti-depressant marketplace and that is what O'Connor and others are critiquing, that and the belief that medications are a sufficient solution, in and off themselves, to dis-eases which are often much more complicated than that... They are part of the solution but not the only solution and often far from sufficient in the role they play because of their side effects, which patients recognized (and often still do) long before those who are supposed to be treating them did or do... and sometimes careless prescribing of the most-hyped AD, rather than the appropriate one for the individual being treated and their specific circumstances, hence making their situation potentially more discouraging than encouraging... I've certainly experienced that myself and there is lots of evidence on these boards that others have and continue to, constantly... because hyperbole and reality often don't match, though the former can contribute to a healthy bottom line for the seller it doesn't always contribute to a healthy client base and society...

Sante!

dj


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