Posted by alexandra_k on October 17, 2021, at 13:34:05
In reply to Re: There is a great deal of ruin in a nation, posted by alexandra_k on October 17, 2021, at 13:18:51
because everybody knows the whole aim of life is to...
be wealthy enough to feed 40 million people...
and to get the people to breed! breed! breed! breed! breed!
it's all about the population growth.
the nz government blames all our problems on how there aren't enough people.
it genuinely thinks that it needs a population the size of china to get organised.
it genuinely thinks that people are such that you can simply walk through the towns and decide who is valuable and who should basically be exterminated...
these ideas sound really familiar...
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the maaori did sign a declaration of independence. some of them. some of the leaders of the northern tribes.
and i think it was then... that the australian constitution was signed. they said a few states agreed to form an australian confederation and they thought western australia might agree to join within 1 year and it was expedient to regard nz part of the confederation.
england passed a statute saying that it acknowledged the confederation. it acknowledged western australia had consented (i don't know how western australia felt about that or what they documented if they documented consent or not) and there was no mention of new zealand.
but the english statute isn't binding on the aussie government. the constitution is.
the constitution was racist. it did not acknowledge aboriginals. there is no mention of maaori. i do not know whether or not australia thought maaori were aboriginal or not. that is to say i do not know if maaori were excluded from the constitution.
the white settlers and maaori signed a treaty.
over the years the relationship between nz and australia has grown larger rather than smaller. the barriers to migration etc. requirements have been introduced that have become stricter over the years. the barriers have very much been to prevent the NZ -> australia direction of travel and less barriers to the other way around. the flow of people is mostly one way in the australia direction.
I think it wasn't until the 1960's that the Australian constitution was amended to acknowledge aboriginal people as Australian. that is very very late in the piece, hey.
But since then things have progressed... There has been an apology for the 'stolen generation' of aboriginal people. The ones raised white in orphanages. We are still, in NZ, very much in the midst of stealing Maaori and raising them white (if they are deemed lucky and desirable) or raising them into gangs by way of government institutions (pathways to prison and living in gang-pads).
And Australia has started paying individuals in reparation. Not paying tribal leaders. Paying individuals. I believe. I believe that is true. For abuses to individuals. Individual soverignty.
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So...
Are Maaori still excluded from the Australian Constitution or...
All Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz-like... Were they included all along?
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What was 'expedient' once appears to be 'doubly entrenched' now. Or... To put it very crudly... How's it feel -- getting f*ck*d?
Brought to you by the Australian Government.
Roll up for your jabs people. Jabby jab jab jab...
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Sigh.
I didn't ask to be born here. Hell, I didn't ask to be born at all.
Sigh.
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