Posted by bulldog2 on June 5, 2010, at 14:50:02 [reposted on June 6, 2010, at 19:31:21 | original URL]
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-rheelorihmaggin » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on June 4, 2010, at 22:20:39
> > > > > I think part of the prob is that for years we've been fed the "chemical imbalance" theory. If you go to a Doctor and they hand you scripts, its easy to say: the problem is my brain. Its like "Blaming The Brain"...both the medical professionals who make money off our misery AND the patient get away with this pseudo-scientific stuff b/c it works. It works for the shrinks b/c they can still act like "real" docs even though all they really do is give people potentially harmful, often ineffective meds for non-physical problems, and it works for patients, b/c then we can just blame our brain instead of figuring out what the *real* problem is. That said, I think drugs can help get us through a tough patch..I just think its important that the mental health industry start being more honest with people. If that doesn't happen (and it probably won't), then at least we as (ex) patients should educate ourselves and others, and find ways to lead joyful, productive lives. I recommend Christianity.
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> > > > You wrote,[...figuring out what the *real* problem is...].
> > > > I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly. In yout opinion,
> > > > A. Is the *real* problem the same for all?
> > > > B. If so, what is the real problem?
> > > > C. If it is not the same for all, then what could be some problems that are *real*?
> > > > D. How did you find the real problem, if you found it?
> > > > E. If you found it, what was the solution too the problem if there was one?
> > > > F. other questions if the above are answerd
> > > > Lou
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> > > Those are insightful questions, Lou.
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> > You wrote,[...are insightful..]
> > I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
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> > A. Could my questions bring out something from the poster that could be a universal problem?
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> I hope it does. I would be interested in knowing what *my* real problem is.
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> > B. If the member is wanting to mean a universal problem, could you think of a universal problem, if you know of one?
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> I don't know of any. However, I am left wondering if this member was referring to one. Perhaps it is universally true that biological psychiatry is always wrong.
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> > C. If there is a universal problem, what could be the solution to it, if you know?
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> If there is a universal problem, I hope that I quickly come to know what it is and how to resolve it.
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> > D. If there is a *real* problem, could there also be an imaginary problem?
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> This is what I am led to believe.
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> > E. If so, do you know of one?
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> I guess imaginary problems become real problems if they are perceived as being such.
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> > F. If there are real problems and imaginary problems, what criteria could one use to differentiate between them?
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> Placebo response. (Just kidding).
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> > G. Can an imaginary problem be a real problem?
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> Please see above.
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> > H. other questions if answers are given to the above.
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> If psychiatrists have it wrong, then who has it right?
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> - Scott
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>That's the problem. We have a haystack of people who have the universal answer to our mental health issues. So we (mental issues) are looking at this pile of experts expounding the "truth" for us. I am left with the problem of picking out the needle of truth out in this haystack of yada yada yada.It's very exhausting for me and probably for you. There could be one needle of truth or multiple needles of truth. Or worst case they are all wrong.
My question to the person expounding christianity or others above who have the answers is how do I know you have the ultimate truth. Why should I trust you?
poster:bulldog2
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