Posted by Lou Pilder on March 4, 2008, at 9:19:31
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Dena-wdvgd, posted by Sigismund on March 3, 2008, at 20:51:25
> >Yes, the Kingdom of God is within, and meant to be expressed through us. It's "at hand".
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> >It's not something to be arrived-at later -- as in "getting to heaven one day".
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> >It's NOW...!
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> So, what prevents us getting/being there?
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> I came across this poem, by Hafiz.
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>
> It Felt Love
>
> How
> Did the rose
> Ever open its heart
>
> And give to the world
> All its
> Beauty?
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> It felt the encouragement of light
> Against its
> Being,
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> Otherwise,
> We all remain
>
> Too
>
> Frightened.Sigismund,
You wrote,[...what prevents us...?].
It has been revealed to me that there are many things that prevent one from entering the Kingdom of God for entering the Kingdom is by being birthed into it. When we were born of the flesh, we had no party to our birth, it was outside of our ability to be born. There was a father and a mother.
It has been revealed to me that mankind was created out of the dust of the ground and God breathed into him the breath of life which is spirit, like a seed, but that spirit did not germinate because Adam did not partake of the tree of life which would have given him conception to the God-life, but partook of the tree of the knowlege of good and evil that leads to death without the Water of life, the Word of God.
This birthing into the kingdom of God has been revealed to me to be a conceiving of God's spirit with the already spirit in man to germinate the seed of God-life, to enter the Kingdom of God.
It has been revealed to me that this birthing is like the birthing of the flesh in that we have nothing to do with it, for as our flesh father and mother caused us to be born of the flesh which leads to death from the carnal mind, our spirit father and mother causes us to be born of the spirit, which is light and eternal life.
It has been revealed to me like you have posted here about the flower. For a seed needs water and light which gives heat to germinate. This water and this light in the spiritual birth is spiritual light and spiritual water. When I studied Botany, I learned that a plant will be drawn to the light and grow toward it and if kept in the dark without water, the seed will not germinate for there is no light for it to be drawn to.
It has been revealed to me that there is a light drawing all men to God's spirit. For as I stood on the sand next to the sea, the Rider said to me," Arise,shine; for your light has come!
And the glory of the Lord is risen upon you.
For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth,
And deep darkness the people;
But the Lord will arise over you,
And His glory will be seen upon you."
Lou
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