Posted by rayww on August 26, 2003, at 22:07:54
In reply to Re: the difference and similarity » rayww, posted by Dena on August 26, 2003, at 11:43:44
> Raywww,
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> Thanks for finishing your thought - & I agree, there are times to hold our peace (I belong to the slow-learner's club!).
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> Did you see that I managed to post my beliefs without getting myself banned? Amazing...I read your testimony Dena. Yes, you did very well. Now we can discuss other aspects of Christianity, like tollerance, faith, hope, charity, etc. Oops, Christianity doesn't have a corner on those does it?
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> Your experience of sensing the presence of the Lord in that meeting was beautiful. I've had similar experiences. So rare & fleeting... such a taste of what is to come. I always want to hold on, grab it & make it stay, but it recedes in time. I suppose if it were always with us, we wouldn't need faith in order to believe.(difference, not meant to be arrogant) I believe that after baptism one recieves the Gift of the Holy Ghost to be a "constant" companion. I have grown up "in" it, and hardly notice sometimes, or know life without it. However when I remove myself from God I feel a painful void, but I still need faith, and it grows.
As Jesus told St. Thomas, blessed are those who believe, though they do not see. But still, I relish those delicious, almost tangible moments of sensing His presence, those mountaintop experiences.
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> Thanks for sharing yours...
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> Shalom, Dena
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> P.S. You called me "very kind"; is this prophetic?Hope so;) Maybe the kind ones get to go to kind heaven, and the mean ones get to go to mean heaven, the cheaters to cheaters heaven, the liars - liars heaven, the lovers - lovers heaven, haters - haters heaven, and those who commit the unpardonable sin against the Holy Ghost, to the other place.
(difference with a wink)Resurrection: difference also. In your testimony (in an above post) you mentioned your spirit living with God eternally. But I believe every person who has ever been born, and die will be resurrected to an eternal body of eternal immortal tangible flesh and bone as Christ was. As soon as we die our spirits go straight to the God who gave us life. (Paradise) From there, there is a separation between good and evil (the common Christian interpretation of Heaven and Hell) but then all are taught or teach, and continue to progress until the resurrection. The final judgement comes right before the resurrection, when the spirits of all men and women will have a second chance to gain the resurrection they have chosen by the body they have created for themselves through their own experience and accountability.
Even though there are evidences and witnesses to the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and also many seers and prophets who have witnessed through all generations of time, this is still a much doubted and debated fact. Twisted even.
I'm a believer, and so are you, even through our similarities and differences, and in spite of all the debate and defame.
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