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Re: Also Ayausca tea » Lamdage22

Posted by Tomatheus on December 31, 2013, at 17:54:05

In reply to Also Ayausca tea, posted by Lamdage22 on December 31, 2013, at 17:22:19

> No, there is no scientific studies behind it. I wouldnt care and it actually wouldnt surprise me if what ultimately pulls me out ofmy whole is a drug like Iboga or Ayahuasca.
>
> You can go ahead and do all this side effect rich boring stuff... i wont. Anecdotes are fine with me. You know why? Because scientific studiescant be relied on if you havent done it yourself.
>
> http://www.ayahuasca.com/tag/depression/

Without a doubt, anecdotes can be compelling. And if a substance has little potential to do harm, then I think that a potential treatment with only anecdotal evidence to support its usefulness could be worth trying. I suppose that I don't know enough about the possible adverse effects of substances like iboga and ayahuasca to say what kind of harm such substances might do, but thinking simplistically, using a psychedelic plant when there's already psychosis involved doesn't seem likely to lead to a good outcome. I know that mainstream treatments for psychotic and affective disorders leave a lot to be desired and that it's easy to turn to other options out of desperation, but speaking as an individual who's been harmed by making risky treatment choices in the past, I don't want to see you inflict further harm to yourself by doing something that to me seems to be risky. Maybe I'm overstating the risk of the psychedelic plants that you wish to use. Maybe I'm not. But I don't think that I'd make the choices that you're thinking about making.

Tomatheus


Has an affective psychosis with strong symptoms of fatigue, hypersomnia, and difficulty concentrating

Taking Abilify & supplements


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