Posted by Tomatheus on May 4, 2012, at 11:36:58
In reply to Re: Update on my response to TA-65 » Tomatheus, posted by sigismund on May 4, 2012, at 4:45:47
Sigismund,
See below for my responses to your reply...
> Not the GABA, something else, just some antioxidant thing, that ECBG or whatever it is. Once I took a dose of that and there was no sleep that night. Goji berries do the same thing, also astanxthin (sp!!), I can't remember how many things do it.
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> My wife sleeps like a log and rhodiola disturbed her sleep.
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> Then there is alpha lipoic acid. That disturbs my sleep too, and could prolong your life which might be unwelcome.I generally hate to make comparisons like this, but it seems like the problem you have with supplements disturbing your sleep but being otherwise helpful might be akin to the problem that I have with supplements being somewhat helpful for a little while before losing their effectiveness. Do you find that the supplements that disrupt your sleep keep disrupting your sleep if you keep taking them, or does that effect ever subside with time for you (or do you just stop the supplements once they disrupt your sleep)?
> You don't get on well with MAOIs?
I didn't get on well with rhodiola when I tried it, but then again, I didn't give the herb a real chance. As much as I hate taking something that is likely to worsen my depressive symptoms, giving rhodiola another go might be worth doing at some point.
MAOIs generally have a very favorable effect on my depressive symptoms, but most of the MAOI drugs that I've tried (ixocarboxazid, selegiline, moclobemide, and Goldshield's tranylcypromine) were beneficial for only three days before they completely lost their effectiveness. I've taken Chinese goldthread, which is an herb that has MAO-A inhibiting properties, and once, I even tried a low dose of harmine, and both times I noticed some benefits on the first day that I took the substances but nothing after that. Nardil really is the only treatment for my depressive symptoms that's had a real pronounced effect on my symptoms for more than a few days at a time, but I even had problems getting that medication to work for more than a few months.
Tomatheus
Dx: schizoaffective disorder
Taking Abilify and 3 supplements
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