Posted by myco on April 4, 2009, at 10:44:38
In reply to Re: Is it ok to just take 5 htp once daily? » qbsbrown, posted by myco on April 4, 2009, at 10:38:08
tons of other ways to mess around with this also...many other herbs/sups have inhibitor properties to block certain steps in pathways...some will potentiate some effect and others will add something else...its all experimentation but do go slow and do mind the fact that mixing certain things can be an issue.
If you are concerned also and have cash yet wanna stay natural in some for....a good way is to get that rx med you like, whatever you decide on if you do...then see what its "missing" then go to a registered naturopath - believe it or not many actually know about rx meds and how to augment safely with sups - then you could approach it that way...i never have cash for these people...they dont fall under the category of "therapy" for my insurance....mind you neither does a pdoc.
> Keep a calm cool head ok lol
> Remember this is a sup and its not gonna be as good as rx meds like i mentioned.
> also you went way to fast on the tyrosine...open up those caps and dump out and seperate into quaters or thirds or whatever (all experimentation)...keep in mind that when you add DA in the form of a sup you will get NE (too much and anxiety gets ya)...plus tyrosine has a weird issue of doin this more so than other sups for anxiety patients.
> valium withdrawal also gonna add anxiety. as you know.
> go slow lol on the bean ok...one dose one day let it ride at that low dose and see. first effects will be the DA - i get concentration increase then sleepy with a cool feeling of tension ease in my chest from DA then it changes - well creeps up slowly - into energy....and if youve ingested to much - getting to much DA - youre gonna get the coresponding amount of NE...then wham anxiety city. so easy goes it lol serious...play...youre an anxiety patient also, to some degree, so take it slow do to added stimulant effect.
> If you had an rx med you could approach this differently also....by antagonizing or agonizing DA or - not sure you know but - if you increase DA to much it in turn will decrease some SE and vice versa...the two seperate pathways are connected, in a way, through other compounds. Alot of people who take tyrosine (or DA sups) will add a lil 5htp to calm overstimulation....how does it work?....increase SE from that sup will have a corresponding decrease on DA thus stimulation. Dopa bean or tyrosine at day or morning then 5htp at night....or altering days....i mentioned this. again experiment....this combo does work welll...its the type of "psychopharm" that a naturopath would do with yout.....they use this combo alot. but if you just need added DA and dont mind the NE (go slow) than the bean only. remember also...treat like an AD...over time it will change....side effects may come first.
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> > Jeesh, only 500mg of the Tyrosine today, and have bad irritability, restlessness, and anxeity.
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> > Get my munuca tomorrow. Please tell me it doesn't do the same thing.
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> > Brian
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