Posted by Marc Boucher on November 25, 2005, at 14:24:20
In reply to Re: I was diagnosed with Dysthymia and ADHD. » Marc Boucher, posted by Declan on November 25, 2005, at 13:04:20
> My sleeping patterns are shot (early morning wakeing) and my nutritional doctor says to take 5htp in the afternoon. I'm not sure how much to take, but have taken 200mg and not noticed improvement. I don't want to take more than that and I always take 100mg. I dunno, but sleep's so important to general health, it flows into feeling decent and relaxed. (It can be very dispiriting, trying to think about this feeling half brain dead.)
**I'd overlooked sleep for many years, and it appears part of what I've suffered from if not the totality of it is due to poor sleeping patterns. As for 5-HTP, I tend to err on the side of caution, as I've bumped into some texts that hypothesized that a large portion of the 5-HTP can convert to serotonin outside the brain, and that apparently can cause heart valves problems. However, I do not know if this is truly valid, but still I've kept that in mind since reading it.** As far as I'm concerned 50-100 Mg of 5-HTP does the trick--but we're all different.**
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> I'm curious about your experience with deprenyl. Someone else (Blueberry?) said it killed his sex drive. How much were you taking? (It'd be a laugh if the 1mg/d I take caused my early morning wakeing.)I don't recall who posted about having sexual side-effects out of using Deprenyl, but I responded to his posting days ago--his name slips my mind. Before I tell you what dosages of DPR I used, I'll tell you about the actual experience with DPR. I'd bought it to help with the low sex drive (It was Selegiline HCI from Antiaging systems)which came in 5 Mg pills. At first I used half a tablet, but prior to using the DPR I'd some sex drive left, although it was very very low, but 30 minutes after I swallowed 2.5 Mg of DPR I noticed that what little sex drive was there, had vanished into thin air. I tehn thought it could simply be bad luck, and decided to try it again days afterwards, but the same thing happened EACH AND EVERY TIME so I waited about 2 weeks and gave it another whirl, but this time I used 5 Mg, and there for about 5 minutes i could feel a revving up of the sex drive, but it simply didn't last. I reproduced that same experience many times, and the same happened all the time, that is, my sex drive really plumetted (considering it was really really low to begin with). I'm 33 years old male, and my girlfriend is 29--when I gave 2.5 Mg of DPR to my girlfriend I can tell you that each and everytime her sex drive went into high gear--she felt more like having sex and there was an increase in sensations felt, thus contributing to heigthening her sex drive even more. DPR was a sheer success with the girlfriend, but with me nothing happened. However one point that I want to let you know is, I've always been the nervous type of guy, thus HYPERACTIVE, and my girlfriend is the PLACId type. I hypothesized that in PLACID people stimulating substances might have a positive effect, whereas in OVERACTIVE people they'd benefit more calming substances--this is what's happening in my case at least. So in the end, I stopped the DPR, and after I stopped it I started getting severe panic attacks, proabaly cause I went cold turkey, which I REALLY shouldn't have done.**
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> From the sound of it you respond well to seratogenic things, or at least the 5htp improves your libido. How much of that do you take?** Anywhere from 50 Mg to 100 Mg (I've never been above 100 Mg/day) sure does the trick--I've noticed that 5-HTP tends to make me agitated a bit, but this may subside after some time though.**
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> As for the seesaw relationship between Ach and NE, Link said that there was something known as the Ach-NE axis, which is why, he was saying, Ach enhancing smart drugs can worsen depression.**Good to know that--I didn't know about that at all.**
**If you have any other questions, don't hesitate, I feel this is how we can help one another, bu digging up some more into the fine details. If you have experience to relate WRT to libido and substances that you found helped you or anything along that line, let me know.**
Take care
Marc
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> Declan
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