Posted by KaraS on June 7, 2005, at 14:55:18
In reply to Re: PS and top 5 brain supplements-Sarah » KaraS, posted by Jakeman on June 7, 2005, at 11:27:57
> Sarah, Kara:
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> I have used the brand from vitacost.com called NSI Phosphatidylserine Complex (60-500mg $18.95)
> It has 20% elemental PS, i.e. 100 mg. of PS. I usually take one between meals. I use on an as- needed basis. I've noticed many of the human studies have used 300 mg.
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> The following is taken from the Degussa website, who manufacture the brand Leci-PS. It's is pretty good for a company web-site, with detailed references and illustrations which show the mechanism of action.
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> "Early studies were performed with PS derived from the brains of cattle (bovine cortex PS). However, due to safety issues, all studies with bovine-derived PS were stopped after BSE was first discovered among cattle in England. BioActives (formerly Lucas Meyer) introduced an innovative and safe soy-derived PS under its trademark Leci-PS in the mid-1990s. Animal studies and human clinical trials proved that soy-derived PS is as efficacious as bovine-derived PS. A clinical trial by Crook (1998) showed that three months of Leci-PS supplementation has effects on memory and cognition that are comparable to those of bovine-derived PS, with results even slightly favoring the soy-derived Leci-PS." http://www.leci-ps.com/bioactives/html/e/products/brands/lecips/index.htm
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> My top five supplements for mental functioning?
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> My favorites currently would be:
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> phosphatidylserine
> NADH
> Rhodiola
> Glutamine
> DLPA/Tyrosine
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> I've listed stuff that's fairly quick acting, and excluding the basics such as fish oil and B complex.
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> Honorable mention is Red Bull which has gotten me through several late afternoon meetings when I felt brain dead. Another supplement I like is Brain Elevate by Now.
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> What are your top five?
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> be well, ~J
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>
Hi Jake,Thanks for the links. Up to this point I had only read on Ray Sahelian's site where he said that the studies were mixed as to whether the soy PS was as good as the bovine PS. He claims that the bovine PS has other factors or co-factors in it that the soy doesn't have. But lots of people do report benefit from the soy PS so I think that's proof enough for me.
I am sad to say that I don't have a list of 5 supplements that have worked well for me. I haven't noticed that any of them have helped me much with cognition. Of your list, I haven't tried glutamine yet. I have also yet to try the racetams or any of the other nootropics though. There may be some reason that I'm not getting much benefit from the supplements. I think I really need to get a thorough labwork testing.
So far coffee is the only item on my list. I'm going to try Red Bull soon so hopefully that will be on there too.
k
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