Posted by MoparFan91 on March 24, 2005, at 21:38:56
In reply to Re: My supplement regimen, posted by Mistermindmasta on March 23, 2005, at 23:15:22
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> > Magnesium Glycinate 600mg 3xday (1,800mg total)
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> That amount of Mg is too high for me. I feel spacy and fatigued. You can tolerate this dose easily?I tolerate it pretty easily. I seem to need about this much for it to help stabilize my moods. I went to a web page on thewayup.com and took a test for Magnesium deficieny. A score of 30-50 means you're likely Magnesium deficient. A score over 50 indicates that you're most definitely magnesium deficient. I scored 58!!! The site says that every 600mg of Magnesium Glycinate should reduce the score by 15 points. Hence, the 1,800mg for me. Here's the URL for the site:
http://www.thewayup.com/newsletters/081501.htm
Also, here's a testimonial on magnesium for depression:
http://www.coldcure.com/html/dep.html
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> > Fish Oil 1,800mg EPA/DHA 3xday (5,400mg EPA/DHA total) - I get this with 18 capsules total of Wal-Mart brand Fish Oil
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> Very nice amount. I've found that a high dose of fish oil is good so long as I don't get any GI disturbances from it.
>I don't seem to be having any side effects from this amount. No fish burps either :-) ! I'm told that the Wal-Mart brand is clean from mercury/contamination.
> > 5-Hydroxy Tryptophan 100mg at bedtime and 50mg morning and noon (200mg total)
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> The increased serotonin in my GI tract gives me loose bowels. I enjoy 5-HTP, but it's rough on my tummy.
>Magnesium Glycinate seems to make this work better for my symptoms.
I've been having some problems with loose bowels since being on these supplements. I'm not sure if the 5-HTP is causing it in my case or not.
> > L-Tyrosine 500mg daily (30 minutes before waking up in the morning)
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> BEFORE waking up?? You mean you take it while you're still in bed?
>Yes, I take it while still in bed. Strange as it may sound :-D . This way, it seems to make it easier to get up once and for all in the morning. This is more convenient since it has to be taken on an empty stomach (30 minutes before eating) so that it gets into the brain. I keep a bottle of Tyrosine on my bedside table and swallow it 30 minutes before waking up out of bed.
Too much Tyrosine (greater than 500mg) makes me irritable, anxiety-ridden, and a little paranoid. 500mg helps with motivation and energy.
> > To Help with Anxiety:
> > Taurine 500mg nightly
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> Taurine is nice for anxiety.
>Taurine seems to be great for this. Dr. Stoll says that it seems to work well for rapid-cycling bipolar disorder. I take extra Taurine when having mixed states or beginnings of anxiety attacks.
> > Niacin(amide) 500mg 3xday (1,500mg total)
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> Never took it.
>This seems to provide some coverage for anxiety during the day. Since I have high cholesterol, this is supposed to help lower cholesterol levels.
> > To Even Out Blood Sugar:
> > Chromium Picolinate 400mcg 2xday (800 mcg total)
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> Never found results from Chromium.
>I've been taking this for about a month now. I'm not too sure what results I'm having from this, but I heard it's supposed to help improve body composition and prevent spikes and crashes of blood sugar. They say it also helps insulin sensitivity. Today, I bought the 500mcg tablets and am now taking 1 twice a day (for 1000mcg Chromium).
> > For Thyroid Health:
> > Zinc 50mg 2xday (100mg total)
> > Selenium 200mcg in the morning
> > Kelp/Iodine 1 Tablet
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> Sounds good. I don't take such high doses but might consider it.
>I take Zinc because I'm definitely zinc deficient. I have white spots on my nails which indicate this. Since I'm Zinc deficient, I'm likely deficient in some other stuff.
> > Augmenting Nutrients:
> > Vitamin C 4,000mg 3xday (12,000mg total)
> > Vitamin E 400IU 3xday (1,200IU total)
> > Vitamin B-Complex 1 Tablet in the morning
> > Vitamin B6 200mg 2xday (400mg total)
> > Vitamin B12 2,000 mcg 2xday (4,000mcg total)
> > Multi-Vitamin 2 Tablets in the morning
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> Do you notice increased anxiety from such high doses of B vitamins? I do.
>Not too sure. I take high doses of B6 mainly because I possibly have mild aspergish tendencies (I act a little odd at times). High doses of B6 have been reported to help autism. I was upped to 600mg 2xday since at least 1 gram is needed to help.
Today, I punted the B-Complex and Multi-Vitamin because they had folic acid. I figured that the Folic Acid was possibly making my OCD worse, and I read that it was a no-no for OCD people. I also punted the B12 as well.
Vitamin C and Vitamin E augment the Fish Oil. They are supposed to make the Fish Oil work better. They are antioxidants, and they are supposed to keep the fish oil from oxidizing. So, it helps it to work more efficiently. Vitamin C also (according to what I read) has antipsychotic properties at high doses.
> > Melatonin 1mg for sleep
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> I get groggy the next day from any quantity of melotonin.
>Too much Melatonin can give me a hangover the next day at the least and can worsen depression for me.
> I might mention that at one point, I was doing 300 mg 5-htp / day, 1,000mg tyrosine per day as well as ashwaghanda which seems to have benzo/nicotine-esque nootropic/relaxing effects. I don't suggest that with your meds, but maybe sometime in the future...
>Anything over 500mg Tyrosine makes me more anxious and irritable. Also, the higher dose makes me a little paranoid at times.
Early in the year, I was taking 2000mg Tyrosine 2xday, 1,200mg DL-Phenylalanine (DLPA) 2xday, and 500mg Glutamine 2xday MIXED with 300mg of Wellbutrin XL. This stuff set me up for serious anxiety. I felt extremely tense, clearly agitated, and felt like I was always on the verge of an anxiety attack. A doctor I saw (a GP, not a psychiatrist) early in the year OK'ed these supplements in addition to the Wellbutrin. Now my new Psychiatrist I started seeing recently punted the Wellbutrin and put me on Lamictal. He also suggesting lowering the Tyrosine/DLPA a bit. The anxiety got better. He also suggesting the Niacin, Fish Oil, and 5-HTP.
> Good luck. Nice supp regimen you got there. Certainly better than mine and it motivates me to improve my own.
Yeah, this supp regimen seems to be doing some good things so far along with my meds.
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