Posted by JLx on October 16, 2004, at 17:44:29
In reply to Re: Can GABA be taken with AD's?, posted by Daniel Woodfield on October 13, 2004, at 8:42:24
> Lets say a depressed person has used up their serotonin stores, putting in a block to stop serotonin from being re-uptaken isn't going to help anything because there isn't any serotonin in the first place. Its a completely pointless excersise.
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> Using 5-htp on its own pours serotonin back into the brain and in effect fills up the tank.
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> If the person who is filling up their serotonin tank does not have enough serotonin receptors to recieve their new stores of serotonin, then and only then will blocking the re-uptake of it help the person out.That makes so much sense to me; it's almost crazy making isn't it that most of the medical establishment ignores such basics as where is the serotonin coming from in the first place that the drugs are manipulating? 5-HTP and tryptophan might help but let's not forget food either. I read "The Serotonin Solution" by MIT researcher Judith Wurtman some years back and it was very enlightening. She says, for instance, that protein and carbs are to be eaten in a 1:5 ratio if you want the serotonin boost. And it has to be starches and sugars, not fruit. This can be problematical in view of hypoglycemia, insulin resistance, and so forth, but making sure the carbs are complex mitigates that somewhat. Wurtman has been speaking out against the no/low carb diets for this reason -- lack of serotonin repletion.
When I was on SSRIs, at first I would feel less appetite but later I would be carb crazy. All I wanted to eat was sugar. It was one reason why I quit them.
> Unfortunately no medical set ups in any country are prepared to care enough about their pateints (for whatever reason) to actually take the time to evaluate the ACTUAL problem that is going on inside each individuals brain. Its a general feling of what can work for some people, may work for all people regardless of the consequences of getting the disgnosis terribly wrong.
Yes, and now that they are saying that ADs only work for about 50 percent of those that stick with them, what else have they got to offer but more of the same.
I don't see why GABA can't be taken with ADs. I was taking it with Prozac at one time and mentioned it to my pdoc saying I thought it helped with insomnia. She just looked thoughful for a minute and said, "Makes sense".
JL
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