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Re: Ginkgo, picamilon etc » LOOPS

Posted by KaraS on August 26, 2004, at 19:44:37

In reply to Ginkgo, picamilon etc, posted by LOOPS on August 26, 2004, at 19:19:48

> Well, ginkgo generally feels more 'natural' to me - I know lots of people have been taking it for a long time, and also, it has the added bonus of stimulating libido (happy husband).
>
> Also, it has some mood elevating effects and oxygenates the brain and body, which picamilon does not. Picamilon will do exactly what it claims - it will get GABA right into your brain to quell anxiety, and it will enhance circulation in your brain - so it SHOULD really help you concentrate, if you usually just get up all the time instead of concentrating on what you want to really do. Picamilon does seem to treat depression, in a kind of 'oh, I feel ok' - I don't think it's a very powerful antidepressant though, and you have to be careful with dosage, or you could end up with insomnia.
>

I've tried Picamilon a couple of times. Once in 50 mg. strength and again at 100 mg. strength. I didn't notice that much but I've read that the effects are cumulative. I've also read that at 50 mg. (3x a day) that it is supposed to be relaxing but that at 100 mg. (3x a day) it's supposed to be stimulating. I need the stimulation. I don't have a problem right now with anxiety.

> Picamilon is basically a nootropic drug (which you probably already know). I was a bit concerned though with the way it started to have the opposite effects to at first after awhile, so just be careful with it. Picamilon had no libido-enhancing effect.

That makes sense, I guess, if it's effects are cumulative and you want the lower dose kind of calming effect.


> If you suffer from bad anxiety and can't get it under control with anything reasonable, I reckon picamilon is worth a shot - just don't take too much and take a break every now and then as I think it builds up slowly, or something to that effect.
>
> If you take it, like it, and want to take a break, I found high dosages of niacinamide with GABA and inositol got me through the 'after' anxiety.


By 'after' anxiety, do you mean rebound anxiety or just your normal anxiety that the picamilon covered up?


> Interesting that you didn't feel anything with DMAE. I seemed to react quite well in a way to it - but then give me some choline and I start bouncing off the walls (and DMAE is supposed to act like a form of choline I think, so who knows what is going on there).

How much DMAE did you take? Was it more than 100 mg? I'll probably try taking more but I hear that it can start to give you muscle tension usually in the 150 or 200 mg. and up range.


> Ginkgo has the advantage of being cheaper than picamilon (depending on supplier) and has a greater effect on memory in my opinion. If you want to stay up all night studying etc. 100mg picamilon would be better.
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> Loops

I seem to react paradoxically to a lot of things that are stimulating to others so it will be interesting to see how I react to taking it continually. Also, I probably have adrenal fatigue so I shouldn't try to stimulate too much or stay up all night (although a part of me would sure like to in order to get caught up on all of my chores and things).

Thanks for you help on this.

Kara


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