Posted by KaraS on August 8, 2004, at 15:10:57
In reply to Re: what I'm planning on trying » KaraS, posted by Simus on August 8, 2004, at 13:39:35
> I take 500mg quercetin every day (almost). I usually only take 1g of vitamin C a day, but when the allergies are bad I usually take 2-3g. I really should take 2-3g every day since C is so important to the recovery of the adrenals. I take 400-600mg of a good form of magnesium a day - usually 400mg though. By the way, allergies go along with adrenal fatigue, and with the horrible adrenal exhaustion I had last spring, I suffered from the worst allergies of my life.
Only 500 mg. of quercetin works that well? I'll definitely have to start taking it again. My regimen includes mixed calcium/magnesium supplements that supply 400 mg. but I've been really bad about taking them since you have to take a minimum of 6 a day in order to get to 1000 mg. of calcium and 400 mg. of magnesium. (Funny but when I allow myself to take those little chocolate chews that taste like candy, I never have a problem filling my calcim requirement.)
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> I question whether or not my body processes proteins properly too. That is why I want to get back into the digestive enzymes. But I don't like the constant hunger I always feel with them. (Maybe it just means that they are working and my stomach is emptying faster???)I would imagine that digestive enzymes making you hungry just means that they're doing their job...
> > > I am trying to get up the nerve to try some basic herbals like licorice. The herbals sound harmless, but I haven't always had good reactions to them so I am a little leary...
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> > I am also apprehensive about trying things. It's scary. You just don't know how you're going to react and I always imagine the worst. I worry that I'll go into anaphylactic shock from each new supplement or medicine that I try. (I used to make sure I was around people when I first tried something new just in case.) Hope I haven't made you more fearful of trying things.
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> Nope. I am the same way.
Do you go to the same extreme in thinking that you're going to go into shock the minute the pill goes down the hatch? I finally decided I didn't care if that happened - that i have to risk it because living the way I'm living just isn't worth it. That was a major turning point for me and I haven't looked back.> HA! Love your sense of humor!!!
That's because it's a lot like yours...
>Alas, my search for Larry the past few days has been in vain. He must be hidden away in some quaint Alpine chalet.
We should have known he'd be too smart for us! Actually, he emerges every now and then to answer a question. I just read a post of his on the main board. And he's probably reading more posts than he answers. He ends his post by saying "OK, back to vacation mode." He just couldn't stand to stay away completely. He's too funny.
I read over on the Administration board that a Psycho-Babble 6th year anniversary party is being planned (for next year I think?) in Chicago. Wouldn't that be interesting? I'd love to meet the people I've been conversing with - esp. you and Larry. Larry would be treated like a rock star. What an ego trip that would be!
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> > I have to find some good substitute for coffee. I hate tea and since I can't take gingseng, how will I ever wake up?
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> Well... I hate to recommend a drug... But since we are SO much alike, you may benefit from Wellbutrin. I just don't know. And I am not convinced that the Wellbutrin is good for people with adrenal fatigue either. I am just not comfortable with recommending it, but if you looked into it yourself and find it worth a try...I did try Wellbutrin once (both capsule and pill form) and felt like I couldn't breathe on it. It was a strange reaction. I've tried lots of things but never had that feeling before. I may try it again. I was very bummed when I had to give it up because I felt that it had the potential to really help me.
> > Don't you wish you could force other people to experience this for just a little while so that they understand?
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> Hmmm... a shot of caffeine equal to four cups of coffee to understand anxiety/panic and the next day a shot of sleep meds and then force them to function as usual in spite of it??? The only difference is that after two days, they can go back to "normal", but we can't.I like your style. That would be a good way to show them the anxiety/panic and sleep problems but we'd also have to devise a way to show them what it's like to experience depression, helplessness, hopelessness, brain fog, inability to make a decision, adrenal fatigue, bizarre allergic reactions etc. etc. etc.
> > > > I'm hoping that this Perika (the most dopaminergic and stimulating of the St. John's Wort formulations) I started on recently and an adrenal fatigue program (still being devised) will give me the boost I need to start making much needed initiatives very soon. I'll keep you posted as to what works for me.
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> > So far this Perika is making me tired and nauseous. I hate having to take these things!!!! I'll be so disappointed if this doesn't work out.
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> Sheesh! Who needs tired and nausious? Yuck.I'm so glad I'm going the natural route now so I don't have to deal with those horrible drug side effects (LOL). Actually, today I don't feel quite as nauseous though yesterday it tended to come in waves - not a steady thing. I made it worse by having a lot of coffee in the morning before eating solid food. That throws my blood sugar way off and always gives me problems. I meant to eat sooner but got carried away on the computer and once I started feeling sick, it was too late. (I'm being much better about it today I can tell you that.) I had a cook-out to attend yesterday but didn't end up going. I got into the car but ended up heading back to bed. My friend is probably mad at me. I haven't had the nerve to call her yet. Oh if they only understood... (I'm putting her first on the list for our forced understanding treatment.)
Here's something to read if you want a laugh. It's an old post I found in the archives of this Alternative Board. Someone did a good job of making fun of us.
In reply to Re: Ame, Valerian/Other Remedies/DIY Herbal Extracts » McPac, posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 11, 2003, at 1:21:18Ame Sans Vie, your knowledge is dazzling. Herbs are the key. I experience great benefits from going out to my front yard and eating grass. I noticed Cletus, my beagle, doing it and figured why not give it a try. I watch him closely, animals have a keen sense of where the best sources are. He doesn't do it every day though. So I keep a quantity of prechewed grass frozen for those critical days. I think it is important not to wash off the ants or grit because Cletus doesn't. Natural substances are the way to go. Lately Cletus has been eating a lot of dried pigs ears. I suspect that the collagen and tannin content may be supporting nutritional deficiencies lacking in the modern diet. Boiling them over night makes them marvelously supple. Though I don't think you need to consume them. Drinking the water after it has cooled contains the essential extracts. For starters say five ears to the half gallon. You can build up from there. Drink it fresh. Prolonged refrigeration propagates iodine accumulation and unless you have a lot of activated charcoal on hand you know what that can lead to. I'm feeling better every day. I am anxious to see what Cletus starts eating next. The natural world has an embarrassment of mood elevating substances to teach us about. You are my inspiration, well you and Cletus.
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