Posted by Larry Hoover on October 17, 2003, at 10:20:30
In reply to thanks, lar, and furthermore, posted by joebob on October 14, 2003, at 11:57:44
> i had a hair test for myself with similar results, and so i did the 24 hour urine collection w/dmps challenge and it verified high/ toxic levels of both mercury and arsenic
You need to identify the route of exposure. It's critical.
> i will get my son's hair analysis done again, but most of the points you mention don't apply, like shampoo etc
I was doing a "stream of consciousness" thingie. Possible routes of exposure. You need to figure this out. Get a sample of house dust. Straight from the vacuum. Get it tested.
> my concern is not only for my son and myself but that these sorts of toxins are everywhere in the environment and we are not being told the full,ugly truth about itThe full ugly truth would needlessly alarm people. Panic won't help anybody, or change anything. When they studied ice cores from Greenland, they discovered massive soot deposits from the time of the ancient Romans. From lead smelting, half a world away. Lead may have been the downfall of the Roman Empire, but it affected the whole world. One man's sewage is the next man's drinking water source.
> you may remember the clinton proposal to lower the levels of arsenic permissable in muni water supplies, which was sqaushed by bush, but if you followed closely you will recall that arsenic was mentioned as a major long-term carcinogenI don't know much about the politics of pollution in America. I'm a Canuck.
Arsenic is carcinogenic, and it's dose-related.
> and since you may read this whole thing through, i am wondering what you think about switching from depakote to lithium....you may remember that i did some posts about lith orotate and, after reading barbara cats experience, what it looked like to me was that it just didn't work in her case, but i have not been able to find any reports of kidney failure or anything seriousI don't know why the use of lithium orotate was not continued, while lithium carbonate and citrate were. The research was done thirty years ago, but I can't find any evidence for the decision to discontinue the orotate. That said, the rationale for substituting a tiny amount of lithium orotate for more substantial sources of lithium ions (e.g. carbonate and citrate) is, a-hem, underwhelming.
> mostly i am thinking about the long term cost of lithium versus depakote er, and the long term toxicity profile, i am not m/d but my neurologist gave me a dx of bp2 in order to get more money for herself....Diagnosis guides treatment. That's the medical model. I don't think it was about money.
> i am currently using 750 to 1000 mg /day of the depakote as a stabilizer for the lexapro which i take at 15mg/day
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> so what do ya' think, which is more toxic dep or lith and which form of lith? i guess i should ask too which is more effectiveThe answers to those latter questions can only be answered by you. Statistics don't apply to individuals. I can't predict your response to drugs.
Lar
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