Posted by Lou PIlder on November 20, 2012, at 15:16:18
In reply to corrected link 2end attempt- Lou's reply-hahmahz, posted by Lou PIlder on November 18, 2012, at 15:50:08
> > > > http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/non%20sequitur
> > > >
> > > > I believe a dictionary is handy at times but I digress.
> > > >
> > > > "The members here are indoctrinated by Mr Hsiung and his deputy.."
> > > >
> > > > I believe there is no evidence of this and that such statements are at the very least counterproductive and could be considered as defamatory. It's regrettable to say the least and I'm truly sorry you feel that way.
> > > >
> > > > Dr. Robert Hsiung, M.D. is a health professional in private psychiatric practice who helps people with mental illnesses to recover as much as possible and thus be able to help themselves. He is a professional of high repute. That is definitely neither the attribute of nor the modus operandi of a cult leader, such as L. Ron Hubbard or Jim Jones.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sorry you feel the way you do but I humbly ask that you please see things in perspective and seek psychiatric care if need be. This is only a suggestion and I'm sorry if you feel put down as that's not my intention.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Sukarno
> > >
> > > S,
> > > The members here are indoctrinated by the administration of the site that consists of Mr Hsiung and his deputy now and his past deputies. An indoctrination occurs in a group when the leaders, which could be a school or a government or a religious group or a socialist group or fascist gruop or such have the key which is that the group members are told what is or not and to try and trust what the leader and whoever he/she authorizes to carry out his/her wishes denotes as what is conducive to the civic harmony of the community/country/ party/school etc. etc.. In this grouop, the members are told what is civil, they are told what is supportive, and they are told what aspects of a faith is acceptable and what aspects of a faith is or is not to be considered supportive and/or civil. The members get a reward by accomodating the leader's thinking in relation to that he/she is doing what will be good for the community as a whole. The leader here states that he will appreciate members accepting what his thinking does here, so members could get an intrinsic reward by following his thinking, in particular but not limited to, his allowing antisemitic statements to stand, and ecouraging members to "offset" me, whatever that could mean.
> > > Then there is scapegoating being allowed here, which I object beyond (redacted by respondent) that fosters hatred toward me. And The administration can do that by allowing those type of statements to stand so that others could also post the same about me and post lies about me.
> > > But the indoctrination is much more than that. It comes from a psychiatrist that has a higher standard to uphold. And when I came to this forum I saw that Mr Hsiung was a psychiatrist and his TOS would protect me from being a victim of antisemitic violence, be it physical or the posting of emotional/psychological violence here allowed to stand that defames Jews.
> > > Here is a link to where Mr Hsiung even says that it is good that a member believes what has been used in the doctrine of {replacement theology} that has been used to foster hatred toward the Jews to ligitimize harming Jews.
> > > htp://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20060614/msgs/735373.html.
> > > Now the indoctrination is that Mr Hsiung says that it is good. This could lead some members to join the leader in his thinking and if they are in a mind-altered state from drugs that were given to them by a psychiatrist/doctor, there is a growing body of evidence to show that the drug could induce a mind-altered state for the taker of the drug to be compeled to commit murder, even mass-murder. And if it is instilled in their mind by reading that a psychiatrist thinks that it is good that a member believes what could be a statement that essentially says that Jews did not have grace or truth until Jesus came, which defames the Jews, then there is an indoctrination here, and they could target a Jew for murder
> > > I ask readers to see for themselves the tOS here by reading this link at the end where Mr Hsiung states that;
> > >
> > > ...I want to be open to feedback, but if you could also please try to accept what I decide and to trust that I am doing what will be good for this community as a whole, I'd really appreciate it.Thanks...
> > >
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
> > >
> > > When I came here and read that, I took him at his word.
> > > Then the indoctrination becomes policy. It becomes {established} by the following, it becomes {state-sponsored} :
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20100321/msgs/949004.html
> > > Friends, you can think anyway you want. But in a community where there are poeple that can be swayed by the leader to accept his thinking, and he and his deputies control the content by allowing or not allowing, then you have an indoctrination and in this case, the indoctrination is allowing hatred to be posted toward the Jews to the point where it is allowed by Mr Hsiung to post what could be thought that the 1 1/2 million Jewish children murdered by (redacted by respondent) can not have forgiveness or eternal life because they were Jews that have in their Faith a rejection of Christiandom's claim here posted, and the statement also could be thought that those murderers of innocent Jewish children have forgivness and eternal life because they accepted what the post purports as some Cristiandom groups say that their bible says. (does it)? The indoctrination is further infused by that the foundaton of Judaism as revealed to me is prohibitted by Mr Hsiung for me to post. So bothe sides now does not happen here, for it can't because the drafter of the rules has made it so. That is part of an indoctrination, my friends. There is much more to this and the furnace of hate can be stoked wherever these posts that defame dthe Jews that are allowed by Mr Hsiung to stand are read. No indoctrination? May the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob have mercy upon all of you that go along with the hate being allowed to be posted here.
> > > Lou
> >
> > corrected link:
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20060614/msgs/949004.html
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> corrected 2end attempt
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20060614/msgs/735373.htmlS,
Now you say there is not an indoctrination here. An indoctrination can happen when the leader of a group will not allow members to know what is fact. The prohibition to the members here is done by repressing another member's efforts to educate and give support to other members by posting what could help others make a more-informed decision as to take mind-altering drugs or not. When the members are intentionally kept from knowing, that is part of the tactics of indoctrination. Here in this case, it is my great conviction that if the prohibition to me here by Mr Hsiung was not posted to me, that lives could be saved, life-ruining conditions could be avoided, addictions could be avoided and the murder of innocent people could be avoided.
Lou
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