Posted by Lou Pilder on January 10, 2011, at 14:15:11
In reply to it's long past the time to start solving..., posted by twinleaf on January 10, 2011, at 11:55:03
> the problems which have been plaguing Babble. It's heartbreaking to see so many posters, ones who have meant so much, finally deciding that it's better for them to leave. A forum like this, devoted to mental health, should not be causing posters to have a flare-up in their symptoms, like Dinah, or blame themselves excessively, like Maxime..Not only is our community now not providing support, it is apparently causing distress and harm.
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> It appears that there is just too heavy a burden of unsolved problems. For several years, we have had difficulty with issues of degrees of privacy (FB/Twitter) and excessively long blocks. Now,there is the added problem of posters causing distress to other posters via Babblemail. Painful as it is, if it is happening, it needs to be brought out into the open and faced. And it is pretty clear that the present notification system is not solving this problem.
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> Despite this overload, many of us who have been here a long time cherish the memory of Babble as it once was (for me, it was 2003-3007). We will do a lot in the hope of restoring it. I would love to be able to participate openly on Psychology the way I once did. I left a few months ago because it seemed as though I was facing a year's block if I so much as mentioned what I considered to be injustices in how the blocks were applied. Then when it appeared that we might get a community council. I began posting again in support of that. It would help my particular situation tremendously.
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> WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PLANS FOR A COMMUNITY COUNCIL????
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> The Council could have made an excellent start by shortening blocks, and could well have eventually proved useful in handling situations like inappropriate Babblemail communications and perhaps even enabling the community to have a say in how relatively easy or difficult disseminating information from Babble throughout the internet should be. Even if just blocking issues are addressed, it is a move towards a more democratic and mutually respectful relationship with Bob.
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> This seems like the closest we have come to having Babble end in a catastrophe. I thought almost all of the initial plans for the Council had been worked out, and that we were about to start, Is there something I missed?twinleaf,
You wrote,[...better for them to leave...a forum like this..causing posters to...not providing support...causing distress and harm...].[...the present notification system is not solving...].[....What happened to ..council...?]
When there are known and obviouus risks to people's mental health and safety, one that disregards or is indifferent to the consequences of their not acting when the known and obvious risks to another's health or safety is in question, can be held responsible for injuries or deaths as a result of their {negligence} to act. It does not matter if one intended for the injuries or deaths to happen. An example that is used to describe negligence is when a parent leaves a loaded gun on a table with small children there. The parent does not intend for one child to take the gun and point it at another child and pull the trigger resulting in the death of another in the house, but the result is the same. The parent leaving the loaded gun on the table was negligent. It would not matter if the parent fell asleep. That parent would be charged with a crime where the jurisdiction defines criminal negligence as disregarding the knowwn and obvious risks of leaving a loaded gun on the table where children are. Another popular example is a person driving drunk and slams into another car killing an occupant. The drunk driver did not intend to kill the other occupant but in my jurisdiction this happend and women was sentenced to 10 years in prison for criminal negligence, even though she did not intend to kill the other person.
You see, the people that are leaving may think that there is a danger for them to be here. What is plainly visible can be seen. Everybodys talking about a new way by council but it's still (redacted by respondent) to me.
Lou
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