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Posted by muffled on October 30, 2009, at 14:54:18

In reply to Re: sickening » 10derHeart, posted by psych chat on October 30, 2009, at 10:25:01

**This is redirected from psycholgy thread:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20091022/msgs/923496.html

> > Somehow the Twittering/Facebooking thing just feels more voyeuristic or something. Before at least we knew people who found us had actually found us because they were searching for people with common issues.
> >
> > TherapyGirl
>
> Anxiety is a natural response to change, and I think the reaction here is in part a sign of cohesiveness and a desire to protect this community from disruption. Like you, however, Facebook and Twitter users are real people who can benefit from support and education. Sharing and tweeting might lead them to the many thoughtful and intelligent posts here, and then they might join Babble and contribute new perspectives and energy. I think good can come of this -- for current posters, for new posters, and for this community as a whole. I'd like to ask you to try to be open to that possibility.

* I think TG makes a valid point(HI!!! TG!!!)
As to the rest, reasonable people can disagree...
We can help some people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.
Quality vs quantity....
etc.
Bob, bigger is NOT always better.
We had a pretty tight group who we got to know and come to trust. We knew who each other was, there was sameness.
Having hordes descend into a group is NOT useful. Its TOO much. Would you consider having group therapy groups of a hundred people??? NO, the intimacy factor would be gone. There would not be enuf time to adress and include all the people. People would invariebly feel(legitimately) left out.
So if you have hordes of people, we can never get to know them all. This forum has lost what made it so extra special. Made it a COMMUNITY. Now its going to just be a busy marketplace. You are not going to get the same type of content. You are not going to get the depth that was here.

> > So I am sorry I said things perhaps wrongly.
> > Still, after all this, I don't understand Bob, I just don't. Maybe I would rather I NOT understand him :( I'd rather not know...
> >
> > Muffled
>
> Muffled, thanks. And thanks, 10der, for showing her how she might interpret things more charitably.
>
> May I ask why you might not want to understand me?

*becuase I always like to see the best in people....
*becuase in some part of my mind I have an idealized image of you that I would hate to lose. I don't want to taint my good memories of Babble. Though I don't know whether you can understand what I am getting at. But thats OK I guess, its who you are. We are oil and water, we do not mix.

> I'm not sure our agendas are so different. I want this to be a supportive and educational site. And I welcome new perspectives and energy. Does anybody else?

*"I want this to be a supportive and educational site "....Bob, IT WAS?!?!?!('cept for blocking issues...)

> Are all of you opposed to new "customers"? (Reasonable people can disagree.)

* I said it above- there IS such a thing as too many....
I was always happy to welcome newbies that stumbled upon babble, and perhaps lurked awhile, then came and joined in. There was a natural ebb and flow, but slow and steady growth it seemed. I wanted to help, I could have helped you, but you are too inconsistant, you(Bob) are unhelpable....

> If our agendas aren't so different and we (more or less) agree on the goals of support, education, and new perspectives and energy, then the next question is how we get there.

*I agree w/support and education....but I thot there were enuf perspectives already, and plenty enuf energy.

> I seem not to have gone about this very wisely. I didn't intend to cause anxiety, hurt, frustration, or anger, and I'm sorry I have.

*this is my thots on this.... http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20090813/msgs/923528.html

> It's always been possible to let others know about posts here. And I don't see how it can be prevented. With the link to the "do not share/tweet list", people can at least see what your wishes are. I guess in theory the buttons could automatically check the list themselves, but I have no control over how they work.

*You have made it too easy. I feel on display. I am not comfortable here. Who the heck is gonna read thru alla the do not tweets???????

> Any ideas on how we can move forward (more or less) together?

* I can't be here. What you want, and what I want, are too different.
Sorry.


 

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