Posted by Dr. Bob on March 26, 2008, at 18:26:02
In reply to Re: Suggestions and solutions » Dr. Bob, posted by fayeroe on March 26, 2008, at 18:09:14
> I would see it as anti-post or anti-phrasing, or anti-word, not anti-poster.
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> TophExcellent! That's how I see it myself.
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> With community involvement there is the potential for scapegoating and victimisation. Group dynamics can be dreadful.
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> SigismundI agree. And people here may be all too familiar with scapegoating and victimization already. That's why I think it would be important for me and the deputies, imperfect though we are, to continue to make the decisions about blocks.
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> I got NO prob of notifying deps if I feel a post has hurt another poster.
> There is ratting in the 'street' sense, then there is civilized people trying to help in keeping order.
> So ratting over every small slight is not what I might do, but if it was escalating and posters were trying to help and it was getting out of hand, the 'notify is ok.
> If its blatantly hurtful, then notify is OK, if for no other reason than to validate hurt poster.
> I think too much in this world we turn a blind eye, we say 'its not MY problem, its not MY job, its not MY responsibility, its not MY kid etc etc.
> So for example, w/in an elementary school environment, I am a parent, but if I see something that causes me concern, I WILL notify someone, or take action myself. I add to the school community. There is a core group of parents that do this, and we are told we are appreciated, so it must be OK.
> So I think in my exalted opinion that there is NOTHING WRONG with notifying, and I think its then up to admin what they gonna do about it.
> FAIR??? I know I have somehow scooted under the radar more than once. Not so sure why, just know that it is so. SO, if that is unfair, then NOTIFY!!! Its up to US to make it fair, WE HAVE that option. I do not mind a justified PBC, its fair enuf if I have screwed up.
> So while I do not like the role of RAT, I am (mebbe not here so much cuz I not around), but IRL I DO take responsibility for things in a more global sense.
> I think if more did that, the world would be much safer, much kinder, and in the long run respectful....but then again...:-)
> MEBBE I FULLA IDEALISTIC SH*T!!!!! LOL!!!! My eyes ARE brown....
> :-)Thank you for expressing that so well. I too see it as a way of adding to the community.
If we weren't notified of every small slight, and some didn't receive administrative attention, it wouldn't be the end of the world. And could even be seen as reflecting the values of the community.
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> I am concerned when a former deputy replies to a poster's concerns and it comes across as if there is still "authority" there, why is this?
Maybe because they really know the rules and how things work?
> One more thing and then I'll quit. I've noticed that some of those posts have been extremely "snarky" and I don't like that. I wonder why does that gets by without a PBC?
Maybe because no one notified us? :-)
> P.S. I appreciate your last apology!! :-)
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> fayeroeI appreciate your saying so, I'm hopeful that we'll be able to get back on track.
Bob
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