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Re: ((((((Happyflower)))))) » Happyflower

Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on April 21, 2007, at 8:43:36

In reply to Re: ((((((Happyflower)))))) » LlurpsieNoodle, posted by Happyflower on April 21, 2007, at 7:54:16

> > I'm so sorry about what has happened. I know there's nothing *I* can do to make things better for you.
>
> Actually *you* have helped by responding to me in support, thank you.
>
That's what babble's good for (sometimes-- except admin stuff. that is not guaranteed or designed to be supportive. unfortunately.)

> > Will you stay, though? I like you lots and I would miss you so much if you left.
>
> I just don't know if I can stay in a place that allows animals abuse jokes. I speak out against it, and I become an *ss ,the problem, instead of what I am speaking out against in the first place. Kinda like the saying "don't kill the messenger".

I think that you may be first to bring it up on this particular thread. the admin is off doing other stuff (IRL, i would assume). It's hard to get their attention these days. And forget about having a timely resolution to troubling issues. THAT has always been a major sticky place in babble. the endless diatribes about a grey area where everyone just mucks about in the dirt and everyone gets dirtier and messier and feels worse for having jumped in. Now that there IS less admin presence I think we have to be more patient and to use the little clicky box when something catches our eye that may contain uncivil content. That's the best and fastest way to get the attention.

> Yeah, but I am okay, in fact maybe staying here when I am fine, may be causing me more harm than what is good. Maybe I need to put my energies into some real causes in the real world, where my efforts would be appreciated. Maybe staying here, keeps me stuck, because I am unable to really help anyone or to help make this site better because the threat of change(even for the better), creates too much resistance. Well it is becoming a waste of my time to persue. I care about babble very much, but I think I am not needed here. I think "I" don't need babble much anymore.

I'm glad that you don't NEED babble, but it's okay just to stop by and say hi every now and then. Kind of like friends, you know. You dont' NEED them (except rarely), BUT it's always nice to know that you can come here and find some. If babble is troubling, just hang out on my threads, or start your own. I try to keep my threads clean of incivilities. I try to stay safe myself.

Part of staying safe is knowing when you've had enough of something. Your messages sound like you've had enough of this issue, and perhaps of babble alltogether. It's okay to take some time off. I'll be here when you want to come back. :)

> In real life the jokes we tell others, are a representive of who we are, and what we believe.
> We may think it is harmless, but it will make an impact on what others think of us.
>
> For example telling racist jokes may seem harmless. But it in reality helps keep racism alive by making it "okay" to put ourselves above a certain race.
>
> Telling animal cruelity jokes allows those who do abuse animals (which is a higher number than one might think) to continue to do so, because it is "funny" or accepted.
> Do we want Babble to represent this? That is all I ask.
> Sorry for the long post, but it is one of the many things I am passionate about.
> Peace to all, animals too.
>
> Happyflower
>

I'm glad you're passionate about animal cruelty. That seems like a healthy thing to be passionate about. I've adopted two formerly homeless kitties myself, and they have given me lots of love. One of them was in the shelter for 2 months. If not for animal rescue charities the city pound would have ... and that makes me cry because kitty is an absolute darling.

You may not get exactly what you're hoping for (which is a rule change? the rule would be something like "do not refer lightly to animal cruelty?") immediately, but I'm glad that you've brought this to everyone's attention. There are plenty of jokes in the world to tell. just say LlurpsieNoodle. That's a big joke. My joke.

Take care, and do grace us with your passion and smarts and caring when/if you figure out how to make babble feel like a good part of your life again.

best to you friend,
-Ll


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