Posted by Dr. Bob on September 29, 2006, at 9:08:11
In reply to Re: Redirect: the other two levels » SLS, posted by Jost on September 25, 2006, at 11:29:46
> I thought social was for... Just being social.
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> Aren't you just promoting dualism?
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> alexandra_k> I was a little disappointed at the redirection myself. I thought it was just a bit premature. I thought it was just about to blossom into a discussion regarding a comprehensive approach toward recovery from mental illness including the biological, psychological, and social therapeutic modalities that might be used promote mental health.
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> I really think a discussion of a multimodal treatment approach towards mental illness belongs on the main board. Also, I would like to mention that I don't like to consider the main board to be limited to issues regarding medication only. I would prefer that it be geared towards mainstream biological psychiatry in general. This would allow discussions regarding ECT, VNS, and rTMs.
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> I really think you should change the Main board to "Biological Psychiatry" if not "Psychiatry".> You have also interrupted a process of synthesis of thought and debate that could have provided more information and education and support. I believe your actions were detrimental to the health of the community.
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> - Scott> There are people over on the main Babble board who seem happy to have these conversations with me over on the main Babble board but I never see them on psychology and I very rarely see them on Social.
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> If I had posted to the social board do you think I would have been able to talk to the people I got to talk to? No. It would have been a very different thread indeed.
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> I was talking very abstractly about approaches that are holistic rather than solely focused on biological treatment.
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> By the way... You might want to think about whether you are catering mostly for Americans or whether you consider this board to be more internationally oriented. As an example, you talk a lot about not importing into the US medications that haven't been authorised... Surely you don't want people of other countries importing meds that are illegal either?
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> alexandra_k> When a thread gets redirected, doesn't it tend to shortcircuit the discussion? Not by necessity, but possibly some kind of signalling, that this discussion isn't so important?
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> The "Social" Board isn't so much "everything else" in equal measure, as it is odds and ends, thises and thats-- tv shows (Grey's Anatomy), the vicissitudes of one's pets' health, ones' hair style, the bad (or great) weather, hiking trips, jokes you want to share etc. That discussion is out of place with the mood and content of the Social board.
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> Of equal importance is that people, in general, inhabit certain boards. ... each is invested in topics, but also their regular interlocutors.
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> In that sense, it's the participants who are the core "content" of discussions. ... one is invested as much in people as in topics--especially because of the episodic, moving energy of the discussion.
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> People on the Social or Psychology Board will not have been aware of the discussion. It will simply be a long, unfamiliar thread, of matters already, visually and psychologically settled (no yellow "new" markers). Therefore "old news." So you've ended the discussion among the originators and replanted it in new ground--where it may very well appear as dormant, and remain so.
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> JostSorry about disrupting things. I understand that it can hurt if a thread you've put a lot of time and energy and thought into is uprooted. But I don't mean to be critical or dismissive or to imply that it's not an important topic. It's just that the main board, for example, does focus on biological treatment (and not just medication). Is it dualistic to have meat in one section and produce in another? My idea is for Social to be the section for general discussion and support. Though I know, "Social" may not convey that best.
I also understand that it's not just the topic, but also the people. But redirecting may promote interaction between people who usually don't mix. Like cross-pollination. Redirected posts should in fact get the yellow "new" markers. They may feel out of place, but people who aren't interested can just move on, and people who are can keep the thread going.
Having boards determined by people rather than topics has come up. I think it would be interesting to try, but also that it would facilitate cohesion on those boards to limit the number of people on each one, and that hasn't been so popular.
I'd rather this site weren't used to facilitate any illegal activities, but (1) I'm just not as familiar with the law elsewhere and (2) I'm not sure it would work to try to follow every law everywhere. I'm sorry if this makes people from other countries feel they or their countries don't matter, but that's not my intent.
Scott, I'm sorry you weren't doing very well. Thanks for helping out so much here despite that.
Bob
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