Posted by special_k on April 14, 2006, at 23:27:16
In reply to sorry » special_k, posted by 10derHeart on April 14, 2006, at 23:09:27
(((((10)))))))
are you doing okay?
i hope you are doing ok.
((((((10))))))))
i respect you
and i know you are doing your best - ok?> I apologize to anyone who now feels I have called you nasty if you violate the civility rules.
> That was not my intention and I don't think that.
i wasn't trying to trap you with verbal tricks...
it was just a vivid way for me to draw out the dictionary civility vs dr bob civility distinction.because according to dictionary civility... that may well be an analytic truth.
but according to dr bob's definition...
it is far from analytic (and false in most instances)and i did it in a way where you were kind of forced to see the distinction... or be labelled uncivil (in bob's sense and maybe in the dictionary sense as well)...
maybe there was some verbal trick in that.
sigh.i know you weren't saying those things.
and i'm not taking it personally.
it was just a vivid way for me to draw out the dr bob's civility vs dictionary def civility distinction.
maybe it was a verbal trick...
but i didn't mean for it to be.> I just thought..I just thought I was being told that if an issue is generally disturbing - war in this case - that here (and IRL, too?) we should suspend the civility rules and speak about those kinds of things, well, any way we want? I was trying to explain how I don't agree with that.
i don't think anybody is advocating that the civililty rules should be abandoned. i think the notion is that the civility rules should acknowledge the critiquing a person on these boards vs critiquing a policy / ideology / political party distinction. not saying it should be a free for all for people to go off with the name calling... but saying more leniency should be shown. IMO we should be allowed to critique a policy. IMO i should be allowed to say 'i am opposed to the american ideal' then talk about what i take the american ideal to be then go on to show why i think those things are not things i want to support. i should be allowed to do this. it would save a lot of blockings on politics. and people would either learn not to take things so personally... or they would not post there. but if they can't handle people doing that... i don't know how they handle IRL with tv and newspapers and the things the politicians say...
don't get me wrong - i think the standard / quality of debate should be higher.
no name calling or mudslinging
but you should be allowed to critique
and express opposition.
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