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Re: maybe we should get input from more people? » JenStar

Posted by Larry Hoover on March 8, 2006, at 19:19:08

In reply to maybe we should get input from more people? » Larry Hoover, posted by JenStar on March 8, 2006, at 16:06:16

> I think a "binary decision" *is* an ultimatum, just with another name.

I urge you to reconsider that conclusion. It is not in accord with the only evidence you have.

> If someone says, "If you don't do X, I will do Y" and leaves no room for compromise, I think it's an ultimatum regardless of whatever it's called.

I'm sorry my multi-track mind has mangled the muse for you. My decision to stay (or not) is independent of my desire to sort this out, regardless of anything else that might be going on. I'm sorry if the two seemed wedded, to you.

You ought to place no weight on me in this decision. I can only speak of me, but the decision is not about me, and never was.

> I feel that I'm capable of looking at decisions and situations from different angles. I just think this is one that merits compromise so that it best fits the group AS A WHOLE.

I suggested my suggestion was a win-win. Have you explored that?

> I'm not sure we're going to get anywhere with this, though, if you're really not interested in a compromise and meet-halfway kind of solution.

Your compromise is not one, because if fails to meet any of my needs, only yours. You can understand why it is rejected, on that basis.

> My suggestion: I support VOLUNTARY red checkmarks and/or drop down arrows that highlight certain posts as triggers for things like SI, CSA, extreme violence. Obviously if these things become mandatory, I will follow the rules. But I personally feel that voluntary reporting is the best thing for the community as a whole.

No, because that permits and actually encourages inequalities. One rule for all, equally advanced. Be responsible for your own posts, just as before.

> Should we agree to disagree? I'm not sure that any more discussion between you and me is going to result in progress?

If you continue to hold our your suggestion as a compromise, you can be sure of that. It is zero to me. I gain nothing by it. I would appreciate a sensitive attempt at meeting my needs in some way, if you want to formalize the idea that an offer has even been made. So far, this negotiator has not received a counter-proposal to manditory flagging that meets even the simplest a prior criteria.

> Maybe we should both hold off and wait for more posters to join in with their ideas? I'll do that, at least. I've said my idea, and I will listen to what others think. thanks!
>
> JenStar

Sorry, I didn't see that statement until now, and I've already written what I wanted to.

Lar


 

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