Posted by Nickengland on August 28, 2005, at 20:07:05
In reply to Re: does it really?, posted by alexandra_k on August 28, 2005, at 18:19:51
Hi Alexandra
>this is my perception and i hope i'm not being >uncivil in saying so...
>but...
I see what you're saying and I think its good to try and look at things from all angles. I do think though that in real life and this has some bearing on here too - People mirror people, in that when you meet someone or converse with someone who shows you lots of respect and happiness, you tend to mirror that right back to them. At least thats what i've found.
>lou
>so>ostracised.
>not by everyone.
>but by a fair few.In ways they were merely given the respect back that they gave to others, that might not seem right in an ideal world, but it happens on a regular basis and it can be hard to rise above that. I personally like to try and gain a deeper understanding of the particular posters you mention there, but at the same time realise that when they were posting messages in the nature that they were, it was obvious to me that they would not be spoken so highly of, for want of a better word.
People didn't go out of their way to ostracise, or criticise those posters, every action has a consequence and people were reacting to those particular actions, being the format of the nature of their posts which is why partly due to the fact they are not posting here today.
>Is that going to happen with deneb?
Only deneb and can answer that as she is in control of her actions which others will respond to. Good reputations are as easy to make as bad ones, and people can choose which direction they want to take.
>there has been an improvement.
>trigger warnings.
>they were hard enough to get - remember?
>but she did.
>she did.I don't think placing the word *trigger* counts though, as it doesn't give you the power to bend the rules so to speak and post things that you know will upset other posters. Improvement would be that suicide or death wasn't being taken so light heartly, but 4 months ago the same posts were happening and if their still happening today, I don't see improvement just because the word trigger is used, as the content is exactly the same.
I know where your coming from in your post Alexandra, and I think its admirable what you say in favour of deneb.
To keeps thing in context for myself, suicide ~ taking lightheartly, teehee'ing about suicide ~ which is death ~ which is a high pecentage of people with my particular illness and everyone elses here do die of and maybe feeling those thoughts when they read that message or knowing someone who has died of suicide.
>i bet deneb feels pretty bad about now.
That would mean that hopefully she now understands not to make light of suicide, lets hope it doesnt haopen again like it did 4 months ago.
>understand that a lot of people are upset...
For more than one particular reason too, with the nature of the posts.
>but my guess would be she is beating herself up far more than anybody here could.
She said she doesn't know why people would feel hurt that she is joking around discussing suicide, or words to that effect. The people here reminded of people they have lost in there life is alot more painful than what someone is feeling right now when they can't even understand the whole seriousness of suicide, or is she beating herself up because really she does understand it, but didnt quite get the reaction she was hoping for?
Whatever it was, I've read the posts and been reminded of a family member that died of suicide, I don't mind reading about suicide and i'm willing to discuss it and read posts about the subject.
I'm not too happy of the subject being laughed about though, no more than I would be of deaths from cancer, I don't find them amusing, deneb does, I be interested to know what she find amusing and how she doesnt understand why it is not serious.
Sorry to end with a negative note.
Kind regards
Nick
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