Posted by Nickengland on July 18, 2005, at 15:14:10
In reply to Re: I feel put down--And » Nickengland, posted by so on July 17, 2005, at 19:56:30
Hello So,
>Generally, Scientology has led the organizational opposition to the administration of psychiatric drugs in the Western world. But individuals who hold faith in Scientology teachings are free to believe or practice anything they choose. Scientology does recognize such conditions as "psychosis" but practitioners offer alternative approaches to treating those conditions. There are spiritual aspects of the approaches, but practically they rely heavily on mega-vitamins and cleansing proceedures such as saunas, which have a basis in some of the most historic systems of medicine in the world.
You mention Mega-Vitamins. This interests me. If we could cross over both subjects of the Scientology approach to the psychiatic illness. Would vitamins be used to treat for example serious mental illness such a schizophrenia or Bipolar? If so, would this be because the practitioners work along the route that there is a vitamin deficiency, and because of this the vitamins are treating the illness directly?
Or, is it just a preferred treatment option as high-dose vitamins would appear to be safer than a pharmaceutical approach? Finally is the diagnostics for recognising a "psychosis" any different than how a psychiatrist would reach his diagnosis of such a condition?
>My understanding of how I developed as a person is informed by concepts espoused by some psychiatrists or psychologists, though for the large part, pscyhiatry today spends far less time exploring social and developmental causes of personal distress than it does dispensing chemicals with the hope of treating the result of those causes.
So do presently still use the assistance of a psychiatrist and any drug treatments that are available through one?
I agree that psychiatry today does spend less time exploring social and developmental causes of personal distress. Would this part of psychiatric care be more to do with the aid of "talking treatments" perhaps they are wondering whether they have gone as far as they can go for now with the different approaches used for this.
>Dispensing chemicals with the hope of treating the result of those causes?
The causes of what? If one is to believe that the causes have even been found then they would be mistaken. I know you havent mentioned the word "cure" (as there isn't one with high-does vitamins or chemicals) but as much as we can agree there is no cure at present - at the same time we could also agree the casues have not been found either... In todays "treatment" that is all it is, "treating" the symtoms of the illness. Genes are being identified though and more treatments are becoming available so at least there is progress. I am neither "pro psychiatry" or a hater of Scientology..I wonder though, if the two know, or claim to no so much about the illness and the symtoms they treat, would we stand a better and quicker chance of finding the "cause" and "cure" if they put their "ideas" together? Just a thought.
>I'm just trying to avoid the insinuation that if someone doesn't reply to a direct question it's not civil. I'm saying I reply because that's what people sometimes do. I don't know that you should feel grateful -- maybe you could feel powerful that you can cause me to write interesting prose. With that skill, maybe you could be an acquisitions editor, or a creative-writing-group leader...
Thank you for the compliment.
>Well, I got hung up on the implications. It wouldn't be "Civil" for a parent to refuse to answer questions of a child about important subjects, such as safe behavior. Along those lines, I have questions about the merit of an administrator suspending for several days his response to a request that he treat all religions the same. But I was just following the train of thought that developed from your inquiry about why I spend so much time at this. My time is spent because of my interest in psychiatry and in administration of this board, but also as a result of my interest in you, which you implicity requested by asking me questions.
Now I am beginning to gain a further insight into why you post here. I thought at first, before we spoke and when I read your messages and also some of them through the archives that you reminded of the style of another poster here on Administration.
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