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Re: gated communities

Posted by Dr. Bob on January 25, 2005, at 3:55:29

In reply to And another thing, posted by mair on January 24, 2005, at 21:55:18

> by my rough count, there are well fewer than 50 regular posters on every board except the meds board and probably on social. I'm sure the psyche board is used by more than 50 people, but recently, it's really only been used by 30-35 I think. So you really already have several "small town" boards.

They may feel like small towns to the regulars, but those who don't post there regularly, or even at all, might wish they could be more involved...

> This tells me that it's not size that you're intrigued with, so much as restrictions on use.

People do seem to hate the idea of restrictions!

Say there's a park. Should picnics there be open to everyone?

> > > 5. What happens if a member of a small board drops out or decides he or she needs to take a break from the Boards? Does he or she lose the spot? If there is an opening, who fills it?
> >
> > If access is restricted, maybe it would be more fair if posters did? And they might be considered to have dropped out if they haven't posted for a while.
>
> This is a tough one because people take breaks from Babble all the time, in fact many of us see breaks as being beneficial, and sometimes they're necessitated by personal circumstances or recommended by Ts.

Hmm... So maybe "a while" should be a relatively long time? The more spots that stayed open, the less active the board would be...

What if people could keep their spots, but the size of the group were then increased?

> > Maybe one way of looking at it would be, in a small town, it's generally easier to get to know your neighbors. And in the big city, it's generally easier to find something (in this case, information). So with a combination, you could have both neighbors you know and access to information.
>
> Here's a problem with your analogy. I live in a small town, and the notion that you get to know your neighbors more easily in small towns is a myth perpetuated by people who live in cities.

Have you lived in a big city, too? And found it just as hard, or harder, to get to know your neighbors there?

Maybe it's another myth, but I do think this site, at least, did have a different feel when it was smaller.

> I also think this will make the Board seem incredibly less inviting ... You can restrict us from posting on certain boards; you can't restrict us from reading posts on restricted boards. So you're going to increase the number of instances where someone feels that they're on the outside, looking in.

Here's a projective test I just made up. Visualize a park that's being used for a number of different picnics. Do you feel:

a. Like leaving because you're excluded by the people there.
b. Like staying to have your own picnic.

> Maybe if the interest isn't there, the concept won't really go anywhere.

I agree, the proof of the pudding is in the eating....

> My posited theory here ... is that members of smaller boards might find themselves drifting away from PB altogether unless 1) they've continued to participate fairly actively on the unrestricted boards; or 2) whatever small board they are on continues to stay active.
>
> Mair

I agree, but now there's only 1, so the addition of 2 would increase the chance of them staying, wouldn't it?

Also, if their small town board didn't stay active, they could move to a different one...

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> I was taught, and I teach my son, that it is rude to have conversations in public that others can not join... "You can't say you can't play."

What if 45 others wanted to join a conversation? Or a game?

> I just don't think it's particularly polite to have boards for public view and private consumption.

How about private picnics in a public park?

> How about calling it what they are. Gated communities, not small towns.

OK, gated communities. Here's another projective test. Visualize a gated community. Now visualize yourself. Did you place yourself:

a. Inside the gated community.
b. Outside.

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> Unless I sm missing something integral to this debate, I say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
>
> jujube

How broke it is may be in the eyes of the beholder...

----

OK, so my idea is that some posters would like the feel of a small town board. I was thinking the way to find out would be to open some new boards and:

1. Impose a limit on their size.

But I suppose there are other potential approaches. For example:

2. Let their members decide what size they want them to be.

3. Just see to what size they grow "on their own".

Would those be more palatable? Or are there even better alternatives? Thanks, everyone, for your help in thinking this through...

Bob


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