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Re: what will happen to better Babble World

Posted by Dr. Bob on August 1, 2004, at 15:17:01

In reply to Re: Dr. Bob ...and also, posted by TofuEmmy on July 31, 2004, at 21:28:30

> 1. I feel there is a need for more deputies.

I think that would be nice, too. Anybody who wants to volunteer can either post something here or email me.

> how about these deputies having a different name when they are fully in charge?
>
> Shadowplayers721

> I'm a bit worried about 'anonymous' deputies. It smacks a bit of big brother to me. And having someone that participates on one hand and can pbc on the other hand? It probably wouldn't be abused, but I think it would make people more suspicious than they already are.
>
> AuntieMel

I agree, it makes things more complicated when people don't know who's who. I'd rather deputies were able to deal with conflict.

> 2. When you go off line, you or your deputy could post a note that the deputy will be in charge of monitoring the board(s) at that time. This lets all posters know the boards are still being closely monitored and the civility rules still apply. People would have to respect the deputies decisions.

I worry that it would be asking for trouble if I announced that I wasn't going to be around. The civility rules always apply, and people should always respect the deputies' decisions.

> 3. If you can't find deputies within this board, you could have a friend that shares your beliefs to watch over.
>
> Shadowplayers721

> I feel that any "deputy" shouldn't be someone that posts here. I don't feel it is possible to be friends with the posters and "watch" them for possible infractions... We are the strength of the board, not Bob, not the University, not a higher power...
>
> fayeroe

My feeling has been that posters (1) are the ones who are most familiar with the "culture" here and (2) are indeed the strength of the board, so it makes sense to rely on them.

> 4. On each board, each poster can have the power to delete any posts off their screen they don't want or choose to use an ignore option for a particular poster.
>
> Shadowplayers721

This keeps coming up. What's the difference between deleting it and just not clicking on it?

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> I wonder if someone who is wise in group internet process could be a guest poster? Maybe he or she could even review some of the "hot" threads and offer alternatives to those who would like to improve their ability to cope with difficult debates.
>
> gardenergirl

> I bookmarked this a while ago, and don't recall where I saw it originally. But it has some common sense reminders about quelling those urges to respond quickly to hot topics...wish I could have followed it myself.
>
> http://www.kalimunro.com/article_conflict_online.html
>
> TofuEmmy

I'm in touch with Kali and others who are interested in online groups. The FAQ already links to her article:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

She does have a kind of "reverse psychology" board, see:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20040717/msgs/370329.html

But I haven't been able to figure out how that would work here. I'll invite her to be a guest expert, that's a good idea.

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> my advice to posters protecting ourselves is to *never* feel too safe on board. Always realize that the possibility of "unsupportive" but not "uncivil" responses or comments is there.
>
> Dinah

And of course of uncivil ones...

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> Maybe instead of someone to PBC after the fact, we need a couple of thick skinned dedicated 'nice guys' to help (or at least try to help) diffuse things before they get too bad.
>
> AuntieMel

All thick-skinned dedicated nice guys (and gals) are free to try to help diffuse things at any stage! Some do already, of course. That's a nice example of relying on each other.

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> I think part of the problem was that Dinah can't block a user at the IP level, so a naughty user can just keep creating new IDs and keep kicking up a raucous. Perhaps you could give her a phone number to call when she suspect this is happening, and some computer operator could help with this?

There are support people who help with technical problems, but they don't get involved at this level. She did suggest that I add a way to turn off new registrations, which I thought was a good idea (and shouldn't be too hard to do).

And of course it's possible to connect from different IP addresses...

Bob


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