Posted by Zo on August 8, 2003, at 0:54:42
In reply to Re: I QUIT! » paxvox, posted by Larry Hoover on August 7, 2003, at 6:46:54
See, Lar, Pax never offended anybody in his life. All the turmoil over what is civil and who's offending whom is an outgrowth of the misunderstandings at the core. I think you understanding, after a year or two of trying, people just about go bonkers. . .people for whom it is normal to feel frustrations at not being heard, not being responded to.In real life, people talk through these things. This has become, for reasons precisely due to the personality - or biology - of the admin - an unhealthy place for a great many people who are perfectly, resoundingly healthy, by any standards but here.
People who are also *highly* reluctant to "blame it on Bob."
No blame attends. It does need to come out into the open that special circumstances apply, here.
Or, I suppose, this can be a board for the contained. Bob has expressed his vision of himself as Smokey the Bear who must stamp out fires before they begin.
But when he senses a fire, many of us know that he is sensing incorrrectly, and have known that this belief symbolizes methods of moderating that, no matter how good-hearted and well-meant, categoricially fail to provide the kind of container that promotes mental health.
Have I said that clearly enough? Does anybody get it? Bob, you haven't said anything - what do you think?
I'm content to just stay away. But it's been over a year since I started posting directly, here, about the unspoken. Spoken *off* list - but not voiced here. I never did like tip-toeing around . , that "you're only as sick as your secrets" thing. Blessings on all. It's been two solid years now without depression--after twenty-two years of being sick. There's hope for all. Just. . take your meds!
And Bob - talk to someone about this. Really. I know it's the very last thing you want to do, but try and just take my word for it. Just - accept. Consider. Imagine there is merit not only to what I'm saying but what everyone has been saying, all along. Everyone will benefit. You too.
Fondly,
Zo
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